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Author Topic: READ THIS FIRST! Master-Guide to Modding! (06/2/2016)  (Read 49818 times)

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Offline kntmikado

Re: READ THIS FIRST! How to make your mods work in G14
« Reply #125 on: May 12, 2011, 03:17:58 pm »
I'm not sure how anyone could actually read WhiteRabbit, but someone suggested it on the old lemu.faucet forums and it was very popular with Amaretto.
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Offline Penguin Eater

Re: READ THIS FIRST! How to make your mods work in G14
« Reply #126 on: May 12, 2011, 03:20:01 pm »
Well, I changed ESL.dll to ESL.dataread. So now you can either data pack and ESL.dataread lies in your Mabinogi folder, or use MNG and rename ESL.dataread to ESL.dll.


Oh and I personally didn't like White Rabbit, it was lagless but just a bit too blocky for my taste.  You can still get it of course, but Sansation is in there by default now.
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Offline kntmikado

Re: READ THIS FIRST! How to make your mods work in G14
« Reply #127 on: May 12, 2011, 03:24:13 pm »
Yeah. I've got my BusAccident font which I'll be using.

So if I'm not mistaken I can download UT, rename UT's ESL.dataread to .dll (ofc rename the original .dll to something else), use MNG and not need Data Packer?

This re-raises my curiosity about what specifically MNG -does-.
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Offline Spitfire

Re: READ THIS FIRST! How to make your mods work in G14
« Reply #128 on: May 12, 2011, 03:27:37 pm »
It's basically a semi bypass.
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Offline kntmikado

Re: READ THIS FIRST! How to make your mods work in G14
« Reply #129 on: May 12, 2011, 03:37:29 pm »
I see. Since any further questions probably ought to just be in their own thread (if this one isn't already derailed enough), I'll have to be satisfied with that for now. You did answer the question I actually asked pretty completely though, so thanks for that.
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Offline Lady Playtime

Re: READ THIS FIRST! How to make your mods work in G14
« Reply #130 on: May 12, 2011, 03:42:21 pm »
Quote from: kntmikado on May 12, 2011, 03:37:29 pm
I see. Since any further questions probably ought to just be in their own thread (if this one isn't already derailed enough), I'll have to be satisfied with that for now. You did answer the question I actually asked pretty completely though, so thanks for that.

Hey, me again.

This thread is for ANY AND ALL modding issues, as I find something people can't do, I will work to fix it, then add/edit it into my guide, preferably edit, I don't need it getting any longer.

If it involves a mod, as far as I care it's on topic.
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Offline kntmikado

Re: READ THIS FIRST! How to make your mods work in G14
« Reply #131 on: May 12, 2011, 03:45:05 pm »
In that case I would have to ask..

If MNG is essentially a semi-bypass but Data Packer works without one and everything that currently does work is based out of the Data Folder, hence handled by Packer, what do we need MNG for? Unless the reply to that is "private .dll edits".

EDIT: Waiiiit a second. I re-checked the front page just in case. MNG is for getting rid of the HS error if you get it, isn't it?
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Offline Penguin Eater

Re: READ THIS FIRST! How to make your mods work in G14
« Reply #132 on: May 12, 2011, 03:46:31 pm »
MNG is a full bypass, and provides .dll mods that aren't available from data folder. I've never seen CP read in the data folder. Although, data read can be enabled by using ESL.dll along with MNG.
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Offline kntmikado

Re: READ THIS FIRST! How to make your mods work in G14
« Reply #133 on: May 12, 2011, 03:47:48 pm »
Quote from: Penguin Eater on May 12, 2011, 03:46:31 pm
MNG is a full bypass, and provides .dll mods that aren't available from data folder. I've never seen CP read in the data folder. Although, data read can be enabled by using ESL.dll along with MNG.

Didn't think of that, since earlier in the thread people very vehemently (and frustratedly) state "No, you won't get CP. No, you won't get zoom."
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Offline Penguin Eater

Re: READ THIS FIRST! How to make your mods work in G14
« Reply #134 on: May 12, 2011, 03:48:42 pm »
Only zoom isn't working atm. Out of the basic Fantasia mods, it's a small sacrifice.
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Offline kntmikado

Re: READ THIS FIRST! How to make your mods work in G14
« Reply #135 on: May 12, 2011, 03:50:43 pm »
Granted, although I admit I'd trade CP to get Zoom anyday. This game is so zoomed-in until you go to homesteads, and then it's suddenly "look how far away the camera can go!"

Maybe I'm just too used to combat with a 4k zoom limit.
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Offline karriem2

Re: READ THIS FIRST! How to make your mods work in G14
« Reply #136 on: May 12, 2011, 03:59:15 pm »
My mabi english unpacker says: copy to install dir then run. what do i do?
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Offline kntmikado

Re: READ THIS FIRST! How to make your mods work in G14
« Reply #137 on: May 12, 2011, 04:01:55 pm »
Quote from: karriem2 on May 12, 2011, 03:59:15 pm
My mabi english unpacker says: copy to install dir then run. what do i do?

You read the first post. Not even halfway down. The part where they talk about"setting up our new mods to work"
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Offline Lady Playtime

Re: READ THIS FIRST! How to make your mods work in G14
« Reply #138 on: May 12, 2011, 04:13:28 pm »
Quote from: kntmikado on May 12, 2011, 03:47:48 pm
Didn't think of that, since earlier in the thread people very vehemently (and frustratedly) state "No, you won't get CP. No, you won't get zoom."

That was on OP, in giantass red letters, I've since edited, due to the release of MNG.
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Offline karriem2

Re: READ THIS FIRST! How to make your mods work in G14
« Reply #139 on: May 12, 2011, 04:14:03 pm »
i did that and it didn't work i see all these files.
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Offline Lady Playtime

Re: READ THIS FIRST! How to make your mods work in G14
« Reply #140 on: May 12, 2011, 04:15:16 pm »
Quote from: karriem2 on May 12, 2011, 04:14:03 pm
i did that and it didn't work i see all these files.

I have. in the simplest way I could possibly think to put it, a step by step guide of how to use data packer so it works, I even put step by step on where to click to FIND the darn thing.

Just go read OP.
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Offline kntmikado

Re: READ THIS FIRST! How to make your mods work in G14
« Reply #141 on: May 12, 2011, 04:37:31 pm »
Maybe he was expecting complete automation, a la TMM/UT?
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Offline tbstewa

Re: READ THIS FIRST! How to make your mods work in G14
« Reply #142 on: May 12, 2011, 05:58:59 pm »
Quote from: Penguin Eater on May 12, 2011, 03:46:31 pm
MNG is a full bypass, and provides .dll mods that aren't available from data folder. I've never seen CP read in the data folder. Although, data read can be enabled by using ESL.dll along with MNG.
If MNG had a full bypass you would be able to use pake without detection. or how bout cheat engine or olly?
all it allows are memory modifications. that is all.
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Offline karriem2

Re: READ THIS FIRST! How to make your mods work in G14
« Reply #143 on: May 12, 2011, 09:38:20 pm »
Could you make a video of this plz? i don't see find when i right click the data packer.
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Re: READ THIS FIRST! How to make your mods work in G14
« Reply #144 on: May 12, 2011, 10:30:33 pm »
OMG I CRIED WHEN MY MOD STARTED WORKING OMG I LOVE YOU FOREVER THANK YOU SO MUCH LOVE FOREVER MODS FOR LIFE THANK YOU
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Offline Spitfire

Re: READ THIS FIRST! How to make your mods work in G14
« Reply #145 on: May 13, 2011, 12:49:29 am »
Quote from: tbstewa on May 12, 2011, 05:58:59 pm
If MNG had a full bypass you would be able to use pake without detection. or how bout cheat engine or olly?
all it allows are memory modifications. that is all.
So, once again, semi bypass.
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Re: READ THIS FIRST! How to make your mods work in G14
« Reply #146 on: May 13, 2011, 12:56:12 am »
MNG can be considered a full bypass, but only for the things included in it. How about that?
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Offline Penguin Eater

Re: READ THIS FIRST! How to make your mods work in G14
« Reply #147 on: May 13, 2011, 01:01:02 am »
I call it a full bypass in order to not confuse the leechers who might think it's broken if you call it a "semi-bypass."
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Re: READ THIS FIRST! How to make your mods work in G14
« Reply #148 on: May 13, 2011, 01:20:12 am »
Quote from: Penguin Eater on May 13, 2011, 01:01:02 am
I call it a full bypass in order to not confuse the leechers who might think it's broken if you call it a "semi-bypass."
If thats the case, I'd just tell them "it works" No need to make them learn..
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Re: READ THIS FIRST! How to make your mods work in G14
« Reply #149 on: May 13, 2011, 01:33:32 am »
I'd just like to put it out here that if you'd like to trade CP viewing for ZOOM, Kotarou has updated JAP with zoom mods, but he still hasn't gotten CP viewing to work (as far as I know)
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