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Offline Shogai

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« Reply #525 on: January 15, 2017, 10:12:09 pm »
I just got home and started the Abyss I had prior to the 12th, NGS detected. After replacing with the latest, all seems well. Any NGS detection issues should likely just be due to old versions at this point.

Draconis.Pendragon

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« Reply #526 on: January 15, 2017, 10:25:07 pm »
Has NGS been updated again? I've using the latest version of Abyss with no other modifications and I'm still getting kicked.
( and from what I've seen, does this mean that having a data folder of any kind will cause your game to get NGS'd or...? )
-File pulled due to being outdated-

Offline Zhu

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« Reply #527 on: January 17, 2017, 12:47:55 pm »
NGS Tuesday Update - 1/17/2017 ~11:45AM Pacific

Offline destindfate2

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« Reply #528 on: January 17, 2017, 01:44:55 pm »
NGS Tuesday Update - 1/17/2017 ~11:45AM Pacific

Yep, started getting NGS'd about the same time. Just in time for tomorrow's maintenance perhaps?

Offline Fl0rn

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« Reply #529 on: January 17, 2017, 04:17:23 pm »
Mkay, some slack's been cut due to wanting to get people regularly using this thread, when NGS kicks in.  I think we've had our adjustment period.  Now, i would strongly encourage people to start reading the first post.  It's not meant to just be a request, it should be a guideline at this point.  NGS is acting up, fine.  How do we know you're not simply being stupid and opening something like cheat engine and just leaving it running, while playing mabi?  Or maybe you're launching using power patcher or something.  Both of these, and more, are covered in the first post.  Yet people who come in posting about NGS, very rarely state they're not doing something that we confirmed triggers NGS, they simply come in and say NGS is triggered.

Granted, at this point we assume abyss.  However, it's also triggered from certain versions of frida/kanan running, as well as certain mod_sharker i believe.  For the sake of smooth progress, at the very least people need to start including what kind of packs/patchers/mods you're using that you suspect would trip NGS.  Or better yet, you could actually test yourself.  We suspect abyss to be the #1 problem, so just remove abyss and launch the game, see if you can stay on 5 mins in one channel without cc'ing, and without abyss tripping.  If NGS was tripping with abyss, and you do this but abyss stops tripping, congrats you've successfully either narrowed the issue down to your current abyss version, or NGS is just being weird.  A good example of nexon's 'progress' would be them screwing up multi-clienting.  It may be slow, but they are still doing things with NGS and detection.

Please save the staff some headache, before any issues actually arise, and put in some kind of effort in your posts so people have a rough idea of what to look at as well.  A form is submitted in the OP, requesting you use it.  If you can personally narrow down the issue to something such as abyss, it'll save time on our wondering/guessing games though, and just avoid frustration all around.  Same goes for just supplying us your packs/patchers/mods in general.  Even if it's not incredibly detailed, it will give a rough idea of where to start. 

Offline Blade3575

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« Reply #530 on: January 17, 2017, 04:21:12 pm »
Update Log:
January 17, 2017: Abyss has been updated on January 17, 2017 at 6:18PM UTC-5.

Offline Blade3575

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« Reply #531 on: January 19, 2017, 01:37:00 am »
Update Log:
January 19, 2017: Abyss has been updated on January 19, 2017 at 3:34AM UTC-5. Fixed all broken patches with help from Step29.

Offline MasterNick

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« Reply #532 on: February 02, 2017, 01:04:55 pm »
Lasted a bit but...i got the NGS issue as of today~ (using Abyss)

mediafile.com/blahrek

Draconis.Pendragon

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« Reply #533 on: February 02, 2017, 01:35:58 pm »
Lasted a bit but...i got the NGS issue as of today~ (using Abyss)
-confirmed-

Offline SpyxedDemon

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« Reply #534 on: February 02, 2017, 02:40:36 pm »
Still fine on my end, and that was 2 maintenance ago.

Offline Kohi

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« Reply #535 on: February 02, 2017, 05:05:40 pm »
hey guys. i'm also getting the ngs error, but i dont have the datapacker file in my mabiroot folder.

i do have my abyss files and i also have avg running :3 is it known that the abyss files are the cause to triggers the ngs scan? thanks for the help <3

Offline Blade3575

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« Reply #536 on: February 02, 2017, 05:06:50 pm »
Update Log:
February 2, 2017: Abyss has been updated on February 2, 2017 at 6:38PM UTC-5. Added WS2MintUnQueue patch by Step29.

Offline SpyxedDemon

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« Reply #537 on: February 03, 2017, 04:19:13 am »
Still fine on my end, and that was 2 maintenance ago.

Nevermind this. Started up today, instant kick. Will try out the new patch now.

Offline KKing

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« Reply #538 on: February 03, 2017, 09:34:25 am »
Getting NGS error too, even though I don't use any of the listed stuff that would cause it, and updated Abyss some hours ago.

Offline BlindedDoll

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« Reply #539 on: February 08, 2017, 07:10:24 pm »
Got NGS'ed just now using Abyss and Tiara, both up to the latest update. Upon removing Abyss, NGS stopped occurring, so I assume Abyss is being detected.

Offline LeanderGreen

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« Reply #540 on: February 08, 2017, 08:25:32 pm »
Funny, but I have been running Mabi from 5:00pm to 9:00pm and haven't had a problem.

As far as I remember there was a problem with DataFolder and RightClick Yourself, so I have them deactivated.

From experience I can dare to say that even with the mods up to date you're bound to get a NGS error if:

-Mabi crashes.  If you experience a crash, next time you log in it might give you a NGS error.  Solution: restart PC.

-PC needs a check up.  Sometimes I get a NGS error in my modded game AND in my unmodded game.  I usually run a PC clean up/optimization program (in my case, Advanced System Care) to get rid of all the junk and possible registry errors.

Finally, specs because the moderators have asked us for them.

System Specs:
Asus Laptop
Win 8.1 64 bits
Intel Celeron CPU 847 @ 1.10 Ghz
DirectX 11
Intel HD Graphics

Mods:
Abyss

Ways to launch:
Mabi Direct Launcher

Offline Fl0rn

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« Reply #541 on: February 08, 2017, 09:39:34 pm »
-PC needs a check up.  Sometimes I get a NGS error in my modded game AND in my unmodded game.  I usually run a PC clean up/optimization program (in my case, Advanced System Care) to get rid of all the junk and possible registry errors.

This could be a sign that your pc isn't optimized good, that you have unnecessary programs causing unnecessary complications, or some other similar issue.  This is not meant as an insult.  I would recommend anyone who uses a pc regularly, to try their best to learn what their regular background processes actually do.  There are a great many programs that want to launch on startup, every time, which are nothing other than resource hogs.  Find what suits your usage, cut out the garbage from starting on launch, only let it launch when you actually need it.  With that said, you should also go through the settings on commonly used programs and such, to do similar.  Optimize them for your own use and system, don't be afraid to do a little research to figure out what various settings are.  Google does wonders.

I'm not saying all this, to try just to try and look good, though that may be a part of it.  I'm sincerely stating that this will help with both your pc, and in dealing with NGS.  Nexon's security has almost always been a fickle thing, kicking for the most absurd of reason.  Getting your pc customized properly, will narrow down potential unwanted processes that will trip NGS irregularly, as well as help things run smoother overall.  You won't instantly gain in-depth knowledge on every aspect and feature of a program, but doing a little at a time is what will get you through it and slowly show you results, without overwhelming you.

Offline Nano

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« Reply #542 on: February 08, 2017, 09:45:55 pm »
RightClick Yourself
Advanced System Care

Right click self works just fine
IObit is real bad my guy

Offline LeanderGreen

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« Reply #543 on: February 08, 2017, 10:45:00 pm »
I see.  Well, I'm not very computer savy but I can try to optimize my laptop.   Still, those are the situations I get NGS errors even with an updated Abyss. Just to show other posters such issues may happen (and just not post 'Abyss stopped working')

Also kiddies, remember to post your specs. :3


Offline Pr0boszcz

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« Reply #544 on: February 14, 2017, 12:13:28 pm »
Seems like Abyss is being detected as of 14.2.2017 11:00AM PST.

Offline MasterNick

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« Reply #545 on: February 14, 2017, 03:15:21 pm »
Seems like Abyss is being detected as of 14.2.2017 11:00AM PST.

yep confirmed, getting detected now also.

mediafile.com/blahrek

Offline Blade3575

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« Reply #546 on: February 14, 2017, 03:31:45 pm »
Update Log:
February 14, 2017: Abyss has been updated on February 14, 2017 at 5:29PM UTC-5.

Offline LeanderGreen

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« Reply #547 on: February 14, 2017, 05:34:34 pm »
IObit is real bad my guy

Any suggestions? I use IObit because I found a good review of it in a PC Magazine.  But if there's something better (and free), I'm all ears.

Offline KKing

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« Reply #548 on: February 14, 2017, 08:15:24 pm »
yep confirmed, getting detected now also.

Didn't happen to me until I switched channel to get dailies. My character was connected for over a day.

Offline Fl0rn

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« Reply #549 on: February 14, 2017, 11:16:04 pm »
Didn't happen to me until I switched channel to get dailies. My character was connected for over a day.

Yeah, i think some of our users have confirmed, if you idle you're not likely to trigger NGS after an update.  However, once you get moving and doing stuff, or change channels, the likelihood of NGS detecting you after an update, skyrockets.