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Offline Lady Playtime

Re: NGS Issues | PLEASE POST ALL OF THEM HERE |
« Reply #450 on: December 27, 2016, 03:42:48 pm »
Because NGS got its weekly update this afternoon, Merry :censored: from Nexon ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
There's a thread for this by the way

I fixed that for you.
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Offline ChiefSosa

Re: NGS Issues | PLEASE POST ALL OF THEM HERE |
« Reply #451 on: December 27, 2016, 03:45:14 pm »
I fixed that for you.
                       Why its fixed now Sovereign? O.o

Offline Lady Playtime

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« Reply #452 on: December 27, 2016, 03:49:44 pm »
                       Why its fixed now Sovereign? O.o

Oh, I just censored a bad word. That's all O-o.
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Offline FameLess

Re: NGS Issues | PLEASE POST ALL OF THEM HERE |
« Reply #453 on: December 27, 2016, 04:48:52 pm »
I abyss is getting detected by NGS. 12/27/2016

Offline Fl0rn

Re: NGS Issues | PLEASE POST ALL OF THEM HERE |
« Reply #454 on: December 27, 2016, 04:49:04 pm »
Ooh? About disabling Abyss functions I just tried that, disabled EVERYTHING possible in Abyss and it is still being detected.

Yeah, ChiefSosa sums it up quite well.

Ya NGS for abyss as of Dec 27 ill just wait patiently


There's also posts in the abyss thread about this, though i encourage people to post here as that's the primary reason for this thread at this point.  And the organization, keeping it all in one place, will make it easier to track the updates and problems.  Thanks.

Offline TheDanglar

Re: NGS Issues | PLEASE POST ALL OF THEM HERE |
« Reply #455 on: December 27, 2016, 05:23:48 pm »
Abyss still acting up.

Offline Vonno00

Re: NGS Issues | PLEASE POST ALL OF THEM HERE |
« Reply #456 on: December 27, 2016, 07:46:30 pm »
NGS is catching abyss. I only run abyss and use direct launch to launch client.

Offline reanseih

Re: NGS Issues | PLEASE POST ALL OF THEM HERE |
« Reply #457 on: December 27, 2016, 11:44:01 pm »
Kanan is also acting up, I think. Just got NGS and I already replaced the dll with the dat. Abyss disabled aka. Those are the only two I use atm.

Then again this isn't the first time that I got NGS only to find it work fine after reopening Mabi. It's late I'm sleepy didn't try it yet.

Offline LeanderGreen

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« Reply #458 on: January 01, 2017, 12:07:10 pm »
Happy New Year guys! Aaaand I think Nexon send us a 'gift'.

Got the NGS error after around 20 mins in game since yesterday.  Had to resort using the Nexon Launcher and the unmodded folder.

System Specs:
Asus Laptop
Win 8.1 64 bits
Intel Celeron CPU 847 @ 1.10 Ghz
DirectX 11
Intel HD Graphics

Mods:
Abyss

Ways to launch:
MabiDirectLaunch

Wait...I remember reading in the forums that the NGS updates are weekly?!  darn you Nexon! ¬¬'

UPDATE!: I just turned OFF the mod regarding Data Folder and everything seems to be running well now.  :)

Offline jseecuna

Re: [December 28, 2016]Abyss Patcher R243
« Reply #459 on: January 03, 2017, 12:19:39 pm »
got a message saying Abyss is detected by NGS as a security threat

Offline ChiefSosa

Re: NGS Issues | PLEASE POST ALL OF THEM HERE |
« Reply #460 on: January 03, 2017, 12:23:53 pm »
NGS for abyss

Offline Pr0boszcz

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« Reply #461 on: January 03, 2017, 12:25:48 pm »
Yup same, started my game at 11:00 AM PST and Abyss is being detected. Is it just me or do they always update Black Cipher on Tuesdays 11:00 AM? Btw other PC game started before 11:00 (at 10:50 or so) and it seems to be working fine. I'm guessing they update only on game launch.

Offline Vonno00

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« Reply #462 on: January 03, 2017, 12:26:49 pm »
Jan.3, 2017 NGS detected Abyss. That's all i use got detected more than once.

Offline FameLess

Re: NGS Issues | PLEASE POST ALL OF THEM HERE |
« Reply #463 on: January 03, 2017, 03:54:24 pm »
NGS detecting Abyss. Jan 3, 2017

Offline Arcangel002

Re: Re: [December 28, 2016]Abyss Patcher R243
« Reply #464 on: January 03, 2017, 04:20:23 pm »
rip abyss today

Offline Syuui

Re: NGS Issues | PLEASE POST ALL OF THEM HERE |
« Reply #465 on: January 04, 2017, 03:28:28 am »
During Jan 3rd when Abyss was detected, I deleted it from my game folder in order to play again,
but then I was detected again by NGS and I only had Tiara installed,did anybody else get that?
(and yes I did make sure I had properly deleted Abyss) 

Offline Fl0rn

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« Reply #466 on: January 04, 2017, 04:45:12 am »
During Jan 3rd when Abyss was detected, I deleted it from my game folder in order to play again,
but then I was detected again by NGS and I only had Tiara installed,did anybody else get that?
(and yes I did make sure I had properly deleted Abyss) 

Remove the dll files, rename dll files, make sure none of your background processes match the list on the original post that will trigger NGS, and ensure you don't have any outdated mods/patchers.
Without more details, all i can really suggest is trial and error, if you're lucky someone with more insight will lend a hand, good luck.

Offline Arcangel002

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« Reply #467 on: January 04, 2017, 11:59:16 am »
rip abyss due to the Update, NGS detected.

Offline LeanderGreen

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« Reply #468 on: January 04, 2017, 02:52:59 pm »
Seems that they did a double update to NGS because even if Abyss got updated yesterday, it is being detected now.

Funny thing is, I've tried (twice) to log in via Nexon Launcher in order to access my unmodded game files, yet it detects and NGS threat and kicks me out.

This is weird since I normally use Mabi Direct Launcher in order to access my modded game, which is in a different folder:

Nexon Launcher unmodded game is in C:\Nexon\Library\mabinogi

Mabi Direct Launcher modded game with Abyss is in C:\Program Files (86x)\Mabinogi

I'm at a loss here.  I supposed that if I couldn't use Abyss I could at least play unmodded, but since it's detecting the NGS threat even if I'm using the unmodded version I don't know what is happening now.

I've deleted the archives in the modded Mabinogi folder (all the archives, the folder is empty) so I don't know what's causing the error, since the folders I use to launch the game 'the Nexon way' are clean of mods.

I've unistalled the game and I'm gonna try a fresh install and see what's happening.  But seriously, if I have to face this bullcrap every week I'd rather stop playing the effin' game. (Because if I get a better PC in order to handle Mabi w/o mods...well, I would be actually playing other games, like Tera or whatever)

System Specs:
Asus Laptop
Win 8.1 64 bits
Intel Celeron CPU 847 @ 1.10 Ghz
DirectX 11
Intel HD Graphics

Mods:
None

Ways to launch:
Nexon Launcher

Offline Lady Playtime

Re: NGS Issues | PLEASE POST ALL OF THEM HERE |
« Reply #469 on: January 04, 2017, 03:06:15 pm »
(Because if I get a better PC in order to handle Mabi w/o mods...well, I would be actually playing other games, like Tera or whatever)


Aww, cute, you think a good PC can play mabi?

This pile of crap runs at 7FPS a calculator, and on a NASA supercomputer. It's coded roughly equal to that of an :censored:.
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Offline LeanderGreen

Re: NGS Issues | PLEASE POST ALL OF THEM HERE |
« Reply #470 on: January 04, 2017, 03:12:52 pm »
Aww, cute, you think a good PC can play mabi?

This pile of crap runs at 7FPS a calculator, and on a NASA supercomputer. It's coded roughly equal to that of an :censored:.

Well, you got me there. I'm pretty naive when it comes to computer stuff.

But now that you mention it, I actually remember people saying that even the most advanced Graphic Cards had trouble running this darn thing.

WTF?!

Offline Lady Playtime

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« Reply #471 on: January 04, 2017, 03:20:07 pm »
Well, you got me there. I'm pretty naive when it comes to computer stuff.

But now that you mention it, I actually remember people saying that even the most advanced Graphic Cards had trouble running this darn thing.

WTF?!

My PC is worth more than many cars are.   It's both my hobby and directly related to my job. It's where easily 95% of my income goes to.

That being said... Mabi runs at a decent 11 FPS. 

This is one the biggest reasons we mod the ever loving hell out of the game, and the site is flooded with lag reducing mods.
In true Nexon fashion, it's garbage. Sadly.
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Offline Fl0rn

Re: NGS Issues | PLEASE POST ALL OF THEM HERE |
« Reply #472 on: January 04, 2017, 04:37:44 pm »
My PC is worth more than many cars are.   It's both my hobby and directly related to my job. It's where easily 95% of my income goes to.

That being said... Mabi runs at a decent 11 FPS. 

This is one the biggest reasons we mod the ever loving hell out of the game, and the site is flooded with lag reducing mods.
In true Nexon fashion, it's garbage. Sadly.

Excessive polygon count, check.
Horrible font lag, check.
Poor coding/scripting, check.

Look at g1-g3 content.  It was helluva smooth back when it was released, on pc with very poor specs.  May not have been awesome, but it was still smooth.  Each update, nexon seems to be more interested in seeing how they can abuse their game engine in a manner unfitting of it, to top off their poor designing.  Lag aside, there are a few mods i actually enjoy which aren't the game breaking type.  I mod for both reasons, least when i play.

I've already decided though, not to touch anymore nexon games, no matter how cool they sound.  That said, i really am interested in ghost in the shell as well as peria chronicles i think it was, but i've tried 3 games under nexon and i just can not approve of them.

Offline Lady Playtime

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« Reply #473 on: January 04, 2017, 05:43:15 pm »
Excessive polygon count, check.
Horrible font lag, check.
Poor coding/scripting, check.

Look at g1-g3 content.  It was helluva smooth back when it was released, on pc with very poor specs.  May not have been awesome, but it was still smooth.  Each update, nexon seems to be more interested in seeing how they can abuse their game engine in a manner unfitting of it, to top off their poor designing.  Lag aside, there are a few mods i actually enjoy which aren't the game breaking type.  I mod for both reasons, least when i play.

I've already decided though, not to touch anymore nexon games, no matter how cool they sound.  That said, i really am interested in ghost in the shell as well as peria chronicles i think it was, but i've tried 3 games under nexon and i just can not approve of them.

I got alpha access to Lawbreakers.
Launched it for the 5 minutes required by Steam to count it as "played" for review and other purposes.

Never actually played it, never will.  It's got Nexon's name on it.
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Offline LeanderGreen

Re: NGS Issues | PLEASE POST ALL OF THEM HERE |
« Reply #474 on: January 04, 2017, 07:49:01 pm »
Alright...

Tried a clean install via Launcher and got NGS...

Then I remembered Fl0rn's post regarding taking care of your PC, so I ran the program I use to 'clean it up' (Advanced System Care - don't know if its really that good, saw it on a PC magazine some time ago); it showed registry errors, so it performed a defrag when I rebooted the PC.

I log into Mabi using the Launcher, and set up a timer...after around half and hour w/o it kicking me out I resumed playing....and everything went dandy.

What the Holy Hell is happening?!

The prospect of facing this shitweekly is vexing enough to want to quit Mabi for good.  I guess you guys continue tinkering with this game more for the joy of modding itself, as you seem pretty critical of the game's flaws so I guess you play Mabi every now and then...

So I guess I should thank you guys for all the effort you put in this, specially now since it seems you have to update the mods weekly as opposed to just needing to do it every month/2 months or mayor update.