Doll Pickups

[╰(　´◔　ω　◔ `)╯]

Is there a way to make them ignore even gold and just pick the Copper Marbles?

Remove gold from the list?

[wallarcher]

I did but weirdly enough they kept picking it.

[kirbysama]

Are you sure you edited the right autobots? Try removing gold from every single instance of autobot.

Edit: Also, make sure you Remove Mods, close Data Packer, Reopen, then Find and Modify afterwards.

[Sozen Cratos Focker]

step 1: Take gold out of the list.
step 2: Add just the copper marbles to the list.
step 3: Save.
step 4: Profit?

[Danuro]

So, if I delete gold, and only leave the marbles in, they will pick up all the marbles now? Mine is doing this i-pick-only-some-of-them thing with the marbles (tho it does run to every drop).

[kenzi333]

Yea they only pick up some of them but run towards all of them though. Maybe there is some problem with the detection

[Xcelled194]

If they run towards them, they are detecting them fine, but the server isn't letting them pick it up.

To be sure: have you removed ALL other mods?

[╰(　´◔　ω　◔ `)╯]

The doll probably runs out of range of the item when it doesn't pick it up. I noticed they were a bit far when it happens.

[Namusan]

I'm doing something wrong but I can't figure what, my dolls won't move an inch:

I modified the race.xml so I get something like this   ExtraData="<xml pickableItems="2000;91666" pickableItemStringId="/herb/;/item/sulien/;/item/heulwen/;/metal/;/jewel/">" FirstCreateStript="setmonsterskill(50101, 0);" />  (this is for the Mari doll).

Then I put said race.xml in Mabinogi/data/db/pet and use datapacker.

Am I missing something?
 

[kirbysama]

Missing a semicolon between item and heulwyn.
Edit: oh, that's intentional.
Edit2: your problem is that it needs to go into /db/ not /db/pet

[Namusan]

Thank you, now it works perfectly.

[Sozen Cratos Focker]

Are you guys all using only one doll bag at a time?

[kirbysama]

I have been doing some testing, and it appears that doll bags have more difficulty picking up marbles that are spawned closer to you.
Maybe there is a delay before a doll bag is able to pick up the marbles, and if they're too close, then the doll will reach the marble and be unable to pick it up.

I have noticed that if you drop a marble on the floor, a doll bag will not pick it up, whereas if you drop gold or other items, it will pick it up immediately.

My dolls use a detection range of 3000m, there should not be an issue with the item being "out of range".

I will be testing using doll bags with a longer delay before detection, perhaps a 1000ms minimum delay.
Note to those who may not know, pick-up delay can be modified through the autobot files in /data/db/ai/local/.

Edit: These results are with a min wait of 10, and a max wait of 100.

[wallarcher]

Please keep us updates because from all my testing, im having the same issue but unfortunately I don't know how to modify said autobot files to test by myself.

[Xcelled194]

How are you changing the range?

[kirbysama]

Here's the autobot AI file, translated and interpreted.

Visual field radius changes detection range.
Max Radius From Owner changes max distance that dolls can travel. Effectively limits Detection Radius when Detection Radius>Max Radius.
One of the Timeouts changes the amount of time a doll can be shuttling items before returning to the user. Raising timeout increases efficiency.
Shuttle Item Wait changes how long the doll sits at a pile before moving on. Lowering increases efficiency. Going too low makes the doll leave without picking up the item.

Anything else I didn't mention, I don't remember. It's been a long time since I fiddled with these options.
Note Visual Field Radius appears one at the very top, and again at the very bottom. I'm not sure what the significance is, I change both in tandem.

http://puu.sh/ivrIi/67ab8e5c0d.png

[Xcelled194]

Are you sure that impacts detect range? I've only ever seen it modify aggression. If it does, though, also change visual field angle to 180 or 360.

VFR at the top is a default, in case the race overrides at the bottom don't specify one explicitly.

[kirbysama]

I'm sure it impacts detect range. My dolls gather at longbow range 2000.

[wallarcher]

Is there a way to make dolls persist on trying to pick up an item more than once?

[kirbysama]

I don't think so. Or at least, there isn't anything in the given AI that allows you to do that.

[╰(　´◔　ω　◔ `)╯]

Is there a way to make dolls persist on trying to pick up an item more than once?

mod the client (internally, memory edit probablys)

[Diiv]

I tried to summon the doll bag when there was already some coppers on the floor (about 2 - 3), but the doll bag didn't go get them.
Only after new copper marbles droped they detected and picked up.

I think it is related to the "detection-delay"

If we make this delay shorter, probably they will notice the copper and go automatically get them, but as we saw if it takes too long they will not pick up some.
Maybe the marble copper have some "avaliable time"  the doll can pick it.

Maybe we just have to change the property of the item copper marble itself to be considered for example (gold, equipable, herbs, etc), instead of changing the doll bag delays.

But if this is not the answer, i tought another way if we can queue the itens on the doll bag, and it will respect the queue order instead of the closest item

[╰(　´◔　ω　◔ `)╯]

But if this is not the answer, i tought another way if we can queue the itens on the doll bag, and it will respect the queue order instead of the closest item

It doesn't go by closest item.

[kirbysama]

With the delay at 1 second, the dolls grab about 4/5 copper marbles. I'm not sure if that's much of a change from normal.

[Crypted]

Yeah, it seems like if they don't pick it up fast enough, they're unable to.