[September 3, 2023]Abyss Patcher

[ubergurl]

So it's ok to delete those two dll files or just leave them be? o:

[Blade3575]

You can delete them if you want, I deleted them as soon as I saw them.

[ubergurl]

Ok thanks Blade! Wish I had paid more attention sooner. I saw them in the folder for a while now but just didn't think anything of it. x.x

[Blade3575]

You're welcome xD they shouldn't have any bearing on modding or game play though so it's entirely up to the user.

[helloiamverybored]

For the past few days, I'm guessing since the last update, I haven't been able to start the game because MabiLauncher Plus' server version is 135, while the local version is 134. I click both download patch and language patch but it fails everytime. I read the recent posts, but nothing similar to my problem p_p. Anyways, any help is appreciated. w7/64bit

[Aldeel]

Empirical evidence, just for you, sillyhead.

http://pastebin.com/QWpJeq1n

I'm failing to see where this says that "Bugtrap.dll" is being loaded into the client at all, which begs the question; Why have seperate DLLs that are pre-built into a client? Regardless, when I moved them out of my folder the "Mabinogi has encountered an error" that just sits in the background disappears. The function of BugTrap is to sniff out errors,close the program, and allow a bug-report to be sent, at least that's my understanding of the description. One could say that modding a client shows a change in code, which is perceived as an error, and bugtrap tells the client somethings wrong. Obviously CrackShield disables the auto-close feature, or I assume that's what it's doing since HackShield isn't able to send a crash signal.

However, whether it's a fluke or it actually did do something, I saw a relevant change to me by deleting them which is good enough for me. If it's simple and it pleases me, I will be fine with it. You might care more about the details than others and that's fine and dandy because it works for you. As long as my client starts and I can see my CP, I'm happy.

[Plonecakes]

For the past few days, I'm guessing since the last update, I haven't been able to start the game because MabiLauncher Plus' server version is 135, while the local version is 134. I click both download patch and language patch but it fails everytime. I read the recent posts, but nothing similar to my problem p_p. Anyways, any help is appreciated. w7/64bit

Try downloading the patch with something other than MabiLauncher Plus?
 

I'm failing to see where this says that "Bugtrap.dll" is being loaded into the client at all

That's the point. The client does not load that dll. I deemed it simple evidence for the layman, showing that the dlls weren't used.

Evidence that it's contained in the Client is more complicated. If you were to try, you could find BugTrap's code in the Client. I did, but sharing it wouldn't mean much.

which begs the question; Why have seperate DLLs that are pre-built into a client?

They leave (or left?) several dlls in the download that aren't used anymore. They don't need to be there, there's no reason for them being there. They just are.

The function of BugTrap is to sniff out errors,close the program, and allow a bug-report to be sent, at least that's my understanding of the description.

More or less, yes. That's my understanding, too.

One could say that modding a client shows a change in code, which is perceived as an error, and bugtrap tells the client somethings wrong. Obviously CrackShield disables the auto-close feature, or I assume that's what it's doing since HackShield isn't able to send a crash signal.

No. That does not constitute an error but rather a security breach. HackShield or Themida would handle issues with that. CrackShield works by protecting a process other than Mabinogi and sharing itself with Mabinogi, so that Mabi and the HackShield server can think Mabi is actually protected. I don't believe it disables any "auto-close" feature. The only feature I could describe as such that I know of is that Mabi will panic if it sees Olly, and that still happens with CrackShield on.

However, whether it's a fluke or it actually did do something, I saw a relevant change to me by deleting them which is good enough for me. If it's simple and it pleases me, I will be fine with it. You might care more about the details than others and that's fine and dandy because it works for you. As long as my client starts and I can see my CP, I'm happy.

Might I suggest homeopathy. Nonetheless, you are free to believe what you will, but I would rather it be kept to your beliefs. A very http://xkcd.com/386/ situation.

[Aldeel]

Might I suggest homeopathy. Nonetheless, you are free to believe what you will, but I would rather it be kept to your beliefs. A very http://xkcd.com/386/ situation.

I bookmarked that. Pretty funny, actually.

[helloiamverybored]

"Try downloading the patch with something other than MabiLauncher Plus?"
How so? D8

[Plonecakes]

"Try downloading the patch with something other than MabiLauncher Plus?"
How so? D8

Like by using the official launcher.

[helloiamverybored]

Like by using the official launcher.

I tried it from main webpage, still comes up with mabilauncher.

[Blade3575]

Your problem might be that you're running HSLaunch.exe, if you do that then Client.exe can't be updated so patching to 135 would be impossible.

[vb286]

No. That does not constitute an error but rather a security breach. HackShield or Themida would handle issues with that. CrackShield works by protecting a process other than Mabinogi and sharing itself with Mabinogi, so that Mabi and the HackShield server can think Mabi is actually protected. I don't believe it disables any "auto-close" feature. The only feature I could describe as such that I know of is that Mabi will panic if it sees Olly, and that still happens with CrackShield on.

Last post before we move on, Lrn2code.  Or at least read it properly, you never see those load because mabi loads them first time and caches them into the client for future use.  However, the call functions only work if the file can be pointed to.  Just because the file says one thing, doesn't mean thats what the code is everyone who made a patcher is a ok-decent lvl coder and should know that.

[Blade3575]

Last post before we move on, Lrn2code.

He coded the Secondary Pass skip Abyss has in ASM. I think he knows how to code.

Or at least read it properly, you never see those load because mabi loads them first time and caches them into the client for future use.

You think Nexon could do this? Hell, why would they? If they were going to do that wouldn't it be easier to hardcode it from the beginning to prevent people from getting an old Client and never letting it load it to begin with?

However, the call functions only work if the file can be pointed to.

Again, why would they do this? Why not make it crash or say it's missing to prevent people from getting rid of them?

Please, stop polluting my thread with your non-logical posts. If you want to reply to this, or someone else to do with this discussion, do it in a PM. The only reason you should be posting in this thread is to help people, request a mod, or post your own problems with the patcher.

[Armchair]

Nothing appears to be broken in r136.

[Blade3575]

Chances are, if the Themida doesn't break then nothing has.

[Plonecakes]

I tried it from main webpage, still comes up with mabilauncher.

The official launcher was renamed to place MabiLauncher in its stead. As I recall, this was renamed to _Mabinogi.exe? Or perhaps Mabinogi._exe, I am unsure. Either way, you can run that version instead.

However, do as Blade suggested first. I forgot about that (or well, had assumed it was off). Every update overwrites the HS folder, and it cannot do that if HS is running within HSLaunch.exe.


@vb286; Thank you for all the laughs. My health has skyrocketed.

[intel]

hi i'm new to using abyss and i was wondering is there a way to make it so it doesn't rain and stays daytime forever? thanks in advance

[Blade3575]

I don't have a mod to prevent rain, though I believe Tiara does. If you look in dsound.ini there's a mod called ControlDayTime, you can change that to the corresponding number to make it always day time.

[kankuro132]

How do you turn off the mod so I can do the update for mabinogi?

EDIT: Never mind I got it to work now =p

[intel]

I don't have a mod to prevent rain, though I believe Tiara does. If you look in dsound.ini there's a mod called ControlDayTime, you can change that to the corresponding number to make it always day time.

oh okay. is it possible to use tiara and abyss together? sorry im really noob with these things

[Blade3575]

Yes, I always use Tiara and Abyss.

[xXIcyknightXx]

GAH still cant get abyss to work ive tried everything TT.TT an Idk what to do really :/ I have Tiara installed I dont mess with it. I almost got abyss to work, It loaded and I saw the spirit from tiara show up then mabi crashed on me again :/ can i get some help?

[Blade3575]

It shouldn't just be crashing unless you're on the blacklist, in which case Abyss_patchlog.txt would tell you. I have no idea why it would be crashing for any other reason and no one else has that problem that I'm aware of.

[xXIcyknightXx]

It doesnt say im on the blacklist anywhere idk... i just really want to use abyss TT.TT