[September 3, 2023]Abyss Patcher

[Yasu]

robflop: The game has a setting to turn characters to robes if your FPS drops below a certain amount.  Abyss includes an option to minimize characters all the time when that setting is on regardless of current FPS.  So turn one of those off depending on which behavior you want.

Yasu: Options -> Game -> Chat -> Party, see if Show From Default Channel is checked.  Abyss can hide bugle alerts and junk, putting them to just the log, but as far as I know it doesn't affect other things.

Resetting my computer seemed to have fixed it. Guess it was a glitch!

[robflop]

robflop: The game has a setting to turn characters to robes if your FPS drops below a certain amount.  Abyss includes an option to minimize characters all the time when that setting is on regardless of current FPS.  So turn one of those off depending on which behavior you want.

Thank you very much, it was turned on in the abyss conf.

[sugary]

Review this post, report back.  You may not be booted specifically by nexon guard, but it's very likely to be similar reasons, if not the same.
https://mabimods.net/index.php?topic=17207.msg245597#msg245597

after fiddling around, I still can't get mod to work for some reason.

I installed tiara, packed it with logue's guide, uninstalled tiara and tried packing, but client still doesn't show up. unfortunately blackcipher or ngs doesn't even show up in task manager so I can't kill it. I have no idea what I'm doing wrong lol

[Draconis.Pendragon]

after fiddling around, I still can't get mod to work for some reason.

I installed tiara, packed it with logue's guide, uninstalled tiara and tried packing, but client still doesn't show up. unfortunately blackcipher or ngs doesn't even show up in task manager so I can't kill it. I have no idea what I'm doing wrong lol

I'd say start here:
Check your anti-virus and make sure to add the folder to exceptions if needed.
For most this does the trick, after that then DEP.  This usually isn't necessary.

Something I forgot to ask is: Does it work without Abyss or Tiara?

[sugary]

I'd say start here:
Check your anti-virus and make sure to add the folder to exceptions if needed.
For most this does the trick, after that then DEP.  This usually isn't necessary.

Something I forgot to ask is: Does it work without Abyss or Tiara?

added the folder path to avast's exception and unfortunately same problem.

fully working without any mods!

[Fl0rn]

added the folder path to avast's exception and unfortunately same problem.

fully working without any mods!

Hm, i can confirm i use abyss successfully, i hate spelling that word, on win10, with avast, with data folder, and even a few mod_sharker mods.  I have a friend who says he can't get abyss to work though, without any data mods installed.

If nothing else, you may assume there's an entry in abyss itself, that is causing a conflict for you for some reason.  The normal log just shows success/fail messages, it wouldn't reflect there most likely.  I'm saying this based on messing around with mod_sharker, as i have issues with one of them regularly crashing me with a generic 'mabinogi has stopped responding' message.  Yet the log for mod_sharker tells me that all mods are successfully loaded, and i can actually log in most the time.

My recommendation, try turning all entries in abyss to off, ie =0, and see if you can boot up.  If so, then yes it's a specific entry in abyss, and it's a matter of narrowing down which one.  Basically trial and error.

[sugary]

Hm, i can confirm i use abyss successfully, i hate spelling that word, on win10, with avast, with data folder, and even a few mod_sharker mods.  I have a friend who says he can't get abyss to work though, without any data mods installed.

If nothing else, you may assume there's an entry in abyss itself, that is causing a conflict for you for some reason.  The normal log just shows success/fail messages, it wouldn't reflect there most likely.  I'm saying this based on messing around with mod_sharker, as i have issues with one of them regularly crashing me with a generic 'mabinogi has stopped responding' message.  Yet the log for mod_sharker tells me that all mods are successfully loaded, and i can actually log in most the time.

My recommendation, try turning all entries in abyss to off, ie =0, and see if you can boot up.  If so, then yes it's a specific entry in abyss, and it's a matter of narrowing down which one.  Basically trial and error.

I think I've come to the conclusion that abyss' ijl11.dll is making it crash. I put every abyss hook as =0 and crashed, put in original ijl11.dll and it actually started up with abyss.ini and it's ijl11.dat in the folder, but mod didn't load. I'm pretty confused since others (and you) have it working

I tried it in steam folder and nexon mabi folder.

edit: considering deleting everything mabi related except for screenshots and reinstalling via steam

[Drakelegion]

I think I've come to the conclusion that abyss' ijl11.dll is making it crash. I put every abyss hook as =0 and crashed, put in original ijl11.dll and it actually started up with abyss.ini and it's ijl11.dat in the folder, but mod didn't load. I'm pretty confused since others (and you) have it working

I tried it in steam folder and nexon mabi folder.

edit: considering deleting everything mabi related except for screenshots and reinstalling via steam

Do you have a data folder in your mabi folder still? Try temporarily moving that folder to your desktop, and then starting Mabi.

[sugary]

No data folder, I don't think I ever had one actually.

Did a reinstall, rebooted computer, still same problem happening . As a test, my boyfriend installed this on his own computer and it worked just fine. We both have win7. My client starts up without abyss' ijl11.dll...

here's my folder, if it helps at all.

many thanks to Fl0rn, Draconis and Draklegion for trying to help me, I really appreciate it!

[Drakelegion]

No data folder, I don't think I ever had one actually.

Did a reinstall, rebooted computer, still same problem happening . As a test, my boyfriend installed this on his own computer and it worked just fine. We both have win7. My client starts up without abyss' ijl11.dll...

here's my folder, if it helps at all.

many thanks to Fl0rn, Draconis and Draklegion for trying to help me, I really appreciate it!

Can you verify that the package folder has no other folders in it? If you ever installed poison pack, it would be in there.

[ZombehCat]

Abyss isn't working for me anymore. Re-wrote everything (Abyss.ini, ijl15.dat, ijl15.dll) but no luck. Anyone know what's going on with the new stuff?

[kill446]

Rename ijl15.dll to ijl11.dll. Do the same for ijl15.dat.

[ZombehCat]

Changed them both. Now I get "cannot find ijl11.dll, please re-install this application"

[ShaggyZE]

renaming the files won't work, download abyss again from the first post, use mirror 2 if you need to and get ilj15.dll from the first post, you can delete ilj15.dat, so you should have (ilj15.dll the original from first post or mirror 2, ilj11.dll 1lj11.dat and abyss.ini from Abyss.rar)

[ZombehCat]

Tried it. No luck. The client works just fine but Abyss doesn't show up when I right-click on the top bar.

[Fl0rn]

If you're still having trouble getting it to launch, this is a bit of a longshot, try using "default.reg" for mabinogi.  I have mine in my actual mabi directory, but i wanna say it's not there by default and it's in the start menu, where the game places the shortcuts.  Been so long i'm not sure if that's right.

I vaguely recall having issues a while back and that fixed it.  If you uninstall again though, make sure to run a cleanup program, specifically something for the registry, to make sure all remnants of the game get removed as well.  I don't believe nexon to be too great at technical aspects, especially clean up and optimization.

[ZombehCat]

I used default.reg. It reset to full screen and all but when I rewrote the files again, the client starts but abyss still fails to work.

[ShaggyZE]

be sure that ExtraThreads=1 is enabled for the right click menu, usually if Abyss doesn't crash you it's working, see if Abyss_patchlog.txt is being created and giving you any errors because ExtraThreads=1 ie the right click menu may not be working for you while other mods could be, if all else fails you can try using PowerPatcher 2.0 to restore your last few .packs and files or do a clean reinstall as well as what Florn mentioned.
the mods can be configured with abyss.ini without the right click menu.

[ZombehCat]

It's enabled. And the files are in there:



No clue what's wrong with it. Guess I'll do a clean install and try again.

EDIT: Forgot to mention, my KH sound mod is working just fine. But right-click doesn't work and nothing else is working besides that.

[ShaggyZE]

so that means DataFolder=1 is working for Abyss?, so Abyss is working, and your sure nothing else? is Zoom working, is CP working (hold alt in game and see if the numbers are appearing by character names), just because the right click menu doesn't work you don't need to reinstall, you can turn everything on and off with Abyss.ini and multi client using a shortcut from the desktop or MabiDirectLaunch.exe, don't worry about the right click menu not working if anything else does because their are alternative ways for relying on that menu, or track down the reson KH sounds are working whilst Abyss is possibly..not working...? because you may have a conflict that's interfering.

also post your Abyss_patchlog.txt, since it appears to be creating it, since it's 4KB it should be saying wither all mods succeed or not and not crashing before hand else it would only be 1KB or less, but they don't always report correctly.

[ZombehCat]

Everything from top to bottom succeeded (sorry I couldn't include the whole thing)



and the data folder option is enabled, so is everything else



None of the other effects are working such as CP, Bitmap font, cutscene skip (I manually enabled it), etc.


Although another mod in my data folder that does work is true color (I think that's what it's called) for the dyes





. - . I don't get it.

[ShaggyZE]

are you using any custom .pack's in the package folder or maybe DATA Packer has some mods added, or are these mods being loaded from your \Data\ folder with Abyss?, change DataFolder=1 to DataFolder=0 and see if those two mods still work, in anycase it would be odd if only a couple Abyss mods work, whilst the rest are reporting as working.

[sugary]

Can you verify that the package folder has no other folders in it? If you ever installed poison pack, it would be in there.

Yeah, no folders in package.

[ShaggyZE]

Yeah, no folders in package.

heh try adding a data folder; like from uo tiara, see if those mods are working with abyss like ZombehCat, the latest version might only be working fully with some, and then only giving DataFolder mods to others, just a slight possibility.

[sugary]

I installed tiara without abyss and it actually worked! I then installed abyss by putting files in steam's mabi folder where tiara is (C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Mabinogi) and client didn't launch. I had my friend install it on her computer and it worked for her(she's using steam too.)

So... something about abyss' ijl11.dll really does not like me haha