[September 3, 2023]Abyss Patcher

[GiratinaAltered]

Can anybody help me find where I can download the bitmap font abyss uses? I want to keep it separately so when Abyss isn't up, I can at least have my good bitmap font.

There is one you could use which requires CheatEngine though. https://mabimods.net/index.php?topic=16634.0

[Drake117]

Back to the drawing board as they always say. Can't say it's working perfectly as it is unless we can fix the minors while working on the other mods in Abyss. So far we are getting people saying:

• Talking to NPCs and crashing
• Scooter pet is dropping FPS
• Boss cutscene stops working
• Bugtrap still popping up
• Mabi stop responding errors
• Error codes messages
• And of course some mods in the Abyss isn't functioning as expected as said zoom mod

Not sure how many people are using Windows Vista, XP, 7, or 8 to differentiate the problems if it's any related in system but likely anyone experiencing it by either Abyss itself or Crackshield.

Screenshot mode is broken, but I suspect that goes with zoom mods.

[Rydian]

Man I wish people would read to see what patches are KNOWN TO BE BROKEN RIGHT NOW.

Can anybody help me find where I can download the bitmap font abyss uses? I want to keep it separately so when Abyss isn't up, I can at least have my good bitmap font.

Abyss doesn't insert a font file like normal font mods, it enables an actual bitmap font built into the game (/data/gfx/gui/font.dds or font_end.dds IIRC), it does need a patch to tell the game to use actual bitmap fonts (which is fast) instead of the TTF rendering (which is slow).

While you can get replacement TTF fonts that are smaller (less glyphs) and simpler (less curves) they unfortunately won't have the same level of impact on rendering speed (I've tried a number).

[Chocobubba]

Man I wish people would read to see what patches are KNOWN TO BE BROKEN RIGHT NOW.
Abyss doesn't insert a font file like normal font mods, it enables an actual bitmap font built into the game (/data/gfx/gui/font.dds or font_end.dds IIRC), it does need a patch to tell the game to use actual bitmap fonts (which is fast) instead of the TTF rendering (which is slow).

While you can get replacement TTF fonts that are smaller (less glyphs) and simpler (less curves) they unfortunately won't have the same level of impact on rendering speed (I've tried a number).

Does that mean we could create our own fonts in .dds format and replace the current bitmap file? -- assuming we kept the same characters in the same spaces?

[mabinogiplayers]

With only abyss myself on windows 8.1 and my wife on windows 7 we never crashed once since they updated it.

If mixed with tiara we did, that is until Draconis showed us on page 140 how to work it out and everything work fine now.

Thanks again Draco your guide was really well done and very usefull

[GiratinaAltered]

Screenshot mode is broken, but I suspect that goes with zoom mods.

Hmm screenshots can't be taken in that mode? Need to see this myself but in class right now and that maintenance is running.

[Convience]

I don't think anyone's mentioned yet, if they have I apologize.

Item hooks don't seem to be working with me or my friend who also uses Abyss, we have some of them turned on but according to the patch log they never get initialized.
If it also helps, The boss room cut scene issue has always been apparent for me, I just never cared. I run only Abyss and crack shield. My friend who recently got abyss, is also experiencing this known glitch.

additionally after getting the latest Abyss I've run into a glitch I haven't had before. When talking to my Ego, equipped or not, I seem to crash if I opt to close the dialogue box with the [X] in the right corner. This does not occur if I choose to [Finish Conversation]. Its more of a minor glitch but I did notice it. It doesn't happen if I play mabi clean without Abyss. Thought I'd toss that out there.

Systems for me and my friend: Windows 8+

other known issues I think are already being worked on: zoom out & SM minute timer...I think that's it.

Thanks for all that you guys do, really c:
playing mabi naked is so painful now > w<

[GiratinaAltered]

I don't think anyone's mentioned yet, if they have I apologize.

Item hooks don't seem to be working with me or my friend who also uses Abyss, we have some of them turned on but according to the patch log they never get initialized.
If it also helps, The boss room cut scene issue has always been apparent for me, I just never cared. I run only Abyss and crack shield. My friend who recently got abyss, is also experiencing this known glitch.

additionally after getting the latest Abyss I've run into a glitch I haven't had before. When talking to my Ego, equipped or not, I seem to crash if I opt to close the dialogue box with the [X] in the right corner. This does not occur if I choose to [Finish Conversation]. Its more of a minor glitch but I did notice it. It doesn't happen if I play mabi clean without Abyss. Thought I'd toss that out there.

Systems for me and my friend: Windows 8+

other known issues I think are already being worked on: zoom out & SM minute timer...I think that's it.

Thanks for all that you guys do, really c:
playing mabi naked is so painful now > w<

It's been mentioned for quite a while. We are just trying to gather more information but so far we getting a conclusion that Crackshield needs an updating to fix the errors while other mods are being fixed. Seems in the meantime it's more optional to just remove Abyss if you're willing to go a little longer till a real fix comes out.

[Drake117]

Hmm screenshots can't be taken in that mode? Need to see this myself but in class right now and that maintenance is running.

Problem the camera wasn't locked in place when I used it. I made a post a few pages back saying the Camera wasn't locked in place, Right Click still turns camera when it should be controlling X and Z axis, and Up and down Arrows should be controlling Y axis. Basically, Screenshot mode is still treated as Normal camera mode.

Not sure if any of that made sense lol...Abyss broke it for sure when it was on, and I turned off every zoom/camera mod in the ini.

[Sozen Cratos Focker]

Does that mean we could create our own fonts in .dds format and replace the current bitmap file? -- assuming we kept the same characters in the same spaces?

Yes. I'm prety sure there are atleast 2 custom .dds fonts and font shadows somewhere on here. (If not then I'm thinking of Lemu)

[GiratinaAltered]

Problem the camera wasn't locked in place when I used it. I made a post a few pages back saying the Camera wasn't locked in place, Right Click still turns camera when it should be controlling X and Z axis, and Up and down Arrows should be controlling Y axis. Basically, Screenshot mode is still treated as Normal camera mode.

Not sure if any of that made sense lol...Abyss broke it for sure when it was on, and I turned off every zoom/camera mod in the ini.

I understand what you are saying there. Abyss isn't functioning all properly even if you toggle the options off. Going to list that then.

Edit: Tested the screenshot mode and indeed it does move the camera out of direction instead of rotating. However taking a screenshot with the button functions normally fine in reality

This is nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooormal.
For the Scooter it seems random. It would drop FPS and other times it's fine.

[Rydian]

Items hooks are broken.

I think I'm just going to make sure that the latest post in this thread at any given time is me posting this.

Just so people don't miss it, you know?

[「★Ｓ２９★シ」]

Items hooks are broken.

I think I'm just going to make sure that the latest post in this thread at any given time is me posting this.

Just so people don't miss it, you know?

Blade just doesn't know how2update OP post
Again, all his fault ¡¡!!¡¡

[dangame]

I understand what you are saying there. Abyss isn't functioning all properly even if you toggle the options off. Going to list that then.

Edit: Tested the screenshot mode and indeed it does move the camera out of direction instead of rotating. However taking a screenshot with the button functions normally fine in reality

This is nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooormal.
For the Scooter it seems random. It would drop FPS and other times it's fine.

There's nothing wrong, Nexon seems to have changed the controls for the Screenshot Mode without telling anyone. I remember thinking this was a bug a few months ago. The new way to rotate the camera around is to use the middle mouse button/wheel.

[「★Ｓ２９★シ」]

There's nothing wrong, Nexon seems to have changed the controls for the Screenshot Mode without telling anyone. I remember thinking this was a bug a few months ago. The new way to rotate the camera around is to use the middle mouse button.

I knew it.
Because I was using screenshot mode before this update and it had those new controls as well.
I was going to test it without abyss but I have been really lazy.


Im going to see if i can look into zoom and cutscene freeze either tomarrow or saturday. Most likely saturday since I have more freetime on the weekend

[GiratinaAltered]

There's nothing wrong, Nexon seems to have changed the controls for the Screenshot Mode without telling anyone. I remember thinking this was a bug a few months ago. The new way to rotate the camera around is to use the middle mouse button/wheel.

Wouldn't notice as much from my part since I usually just hit screenshot button. Rarely would use screenshot mode unless I want to compare my CP to my old screenshots.
Seems Scooter pet is doing fine if I CC multiple time but not really a good fix.
Went dungeoning earlier didn't crash because I had Tiara cutscene skip.

[「★Ｓ２９★シ」]

Wouldn't notice as much from my part since I usually just hit screenshot button. Rarely would use screenshot mode unless I want to compare my CP to my old screenshots.
Seems Scooter pet is doing fine if I CC multiple time but not really a good fix.
Went dungeoning earlier didn't crash because I had Tiara cutscene skip.

I want you to do me a favor since I really don't have time  to play mabi seriously
First, disable NoSMVIPMessage on the ini
Then, play mabi normally
When you get the pet scooter lag, go to the abyss menu and disable a mod, one by one.
If you get your FPS back, then tell me the mod name and I will debug

If all mods are disabled, and if the FPS still lags. I will go kill myself

[GiratinaAltered]

I want you to do me a favor since I really don't have time  to play mabi seriously
First, disable NoSMVIPMessage on the ini
Then, play mabi normally
When you get the pet scooter lag, go to the abyss menu and disable a mod, one by one.
If you get your FPS back, then tell me the mod name and I will debug

If all mods are disabled, and if the FPS still lags. I will go kill myself

Working on it. It FPS dropped but so far most mods isn't affecting it and then I hit combat mode disable part and it crashed LOL
Going back to keep testing once I can get my scooter to fps drop me again.
Edit: Takling to my ego weapon and hitting the X button to cancel the conversation makes my client freeze but manage to barely made it.

[e265626]

I have a request for a feature in Abyss I think the majority of people don't know they want.

On every frame, poll the mouse to check if pressed mouse buttons are in fact released, or change the input handling code in a way that it's impossible to get stuck in a pressed state.

If you are holding a mouse button and release it the right moment (usually when a frame gets dropped), the game never gets the message that you released the button and will continue to operate as such. It annoys the hell out of me and it seems to have gotten more frequent in recent patches. FFS learn how to code, DevCat!

Edit: If input handling can't be fixed in a reasonable way, try to make a dirty hack that disallows LeftMouseButton to be held at all by forcing the game to think you release it all the time. I'm pretty sure the only time you ever need to hold LMB is during the Tailoring minigame.

[Drakelegion]

Edit: If input handling can't be fixed in a reasonable way, try to make a dirty hack that disallows LeftMouseButton to be held at all by forcing the game to think you release it all the time. I'm pretty sure the only time you ever need to hold LMB is during the Tailoring minigame.

Cept for the people that hate the wasd movement(one of my friends cant get it to work right), and use mouse to move always.

[e265626]

Cept for the people that hate the wasd movement(one of my friends cant get it to work right), and use mouse to move always.

I don't use WASD either, but when I click to move, I click on the specified location of where I want to end up at, past the visual range to move that direction in general, or plot a path through the minimap holding SHIFT.

I see what you're saying though, you move Diablo style: click and hold then drag to continue moving or adjust direction. I would have learned to do it this way if Mabinogi client movement slid along obstacles instead of getting stuck on them.

[GiratinaAltered]

Removed all my mods from toggle, seems nothing changed on the fps with my scooter out. The Scooter doesn't lag when you start out in Mabi but the longer you stay on Mabi the stronger the fps effects happen afterwards. Seems I can't find the one mod that could be dropping it but likely something in Abyss is since my friend is just using crackshield and experiencing no fps with the scooter pet.

[Draconis.Pendragon]

Documented sources of a particular issue with scooters so far:

Summoning a scooter within Peaca Abyss seems to kill FPS to the point where doing anything with them summoned is basically impossible. It seems to only occur to us with Abyss active.

Edit: It seemed to only occur inside of Peaca Abyss but it's happened in a few other locations now. 99% sure it's abyss causing the fps drop.

I had the same problem in Quilla Base Camp and Metus.

When I summoned the Scooter (and FPS dropped),
changed channel with the Scooter still summoned,
it fixed the problem in next channel.

I had this happen as well during Bandit Hunting.  There might be something to this...

This:

I believe that this may be related to CrackShield, not Tiara nor Abyss. I've never used cutscene skipping mods, and I've been experiencing this since 203 as well. After 203 released, I continued to use CrackShield for a bit even while Abyss was broken. I stopped because it was causing the client to freeze during dungeon cutscenes and when closing the mailbox.

Now that Abyss is back, I resumed using CrackShield again... but again, same issue as before.


Additionally, I've been finding that the game completely crashes sometimes at the secondary password. I haven't tried the updated version yet, though. I'll need to try that to see if it fixes this for me.

You know what.
You're right.


We would have to contact Yiting about this.

EDIT: I already send an email to him, if he still uses it, hopefully he will see it.

Anyone ever hear of Occam's Razor?  Well, this seems to be the case here.  Whatever the simplest and most logical answer, is probably the most likely solution.  I recall before I was using just packs, I didn't have this issue.  Then, I started using Abyss again.  The issue appeared. 

So, then there's was some troubleshooting done on Jragon's part:

I want you to do me a favor since I really don't have time  to play mabi seriously
First, disable NoSMVIPMessage on the ini
Then, play mabi normally
When you get the pet scooter lag, go to the abyss menu and disable a mod, one by one.
If you get your FPS back, then tell me the mod name and I will debug

If all mods are disabled, and if the FPS still lags. I will go kill myself

Working on it. It FPS dropped but so far most mods isn't affecting it and then I hit combat mode disable part and it crashed LOL
Going back to keep testing once I can get my scooter to fps drop me again.
Edit: Takling to my ego weapon and hitting the X button to cancel the conversation makes my client freeze but manage to barely made it.

Removed all my mods from toggle, seems nothing changed on the fps with my scooter out. The Scooter doesn't lag when you start out in Mabi but the longer you stay on Mabi the stronger the fps effects happen afterwards. Seems I can't find the one mod that could be dropping it but likely something in Abyss is since my friend is just using crackshield and experiencing no fps with the scooter pet.

Now try removing Abyss.  Note the problem should disappear.  Now, just use Crackshield... The problem should reappear.  The issue with scooters and other issues, isn't consistent on appearances.  However, if you give yourself time ingame, then you'll note issues starting to reappear again.

As it currently stands, Crackshield needs to be updated.  This is our Achilles' heel at the moment.  Time will tell.  If anyone else could confirm this aside from me, it'd be appreciated.  Thanks in advance.

Another quick note: My Alpaca went on a speed run of sorts while it was summoned for Commerce today... >_>  My FPS dropped, but I went what appeared to be really fast, almost like a speed hack.

[storagemule]

my mabi keeps crashing from the cutscenes in boss room after installing abyss

anyone know what part of abyss might be causing this? I deleted my data folder so it's not because of that

[Draconis.Pendragon]

my mabi keeps crashing from the cutscenes in boss room after installing abyss

anyone know what part of abyss might be causing this? I deleted my data folder so it's not because of that

Please read back about 4-5 pages to get an exact idea as to what currently going on.  Once you understand this, then you'll know.  If anyone were to just tell you, then we'd be stealing that opportunity from you to learn.  If you're going to use mods, then please try to understand some of the basics.  Often times we have to trouble shoot our own problems in order to provide the info needed to those that need it in order to fix it.