[September 3, 2023]Abyss Patcher

[ShadowYoshi8039]

I've had this happen several times before and it's usually data folder related. That'd be your first step... Also, please make sure you're running Mabi and HS with admin privileges.  I'm using 8.1 myself.  This behavior has also happened on my Windows 7 laptop, and the cause was the same.

Yeah I run Mabinogi just fine without Abyss on this computer.  It only does it after i install Abyss.  It worked perfectly normal before this latest update...

[Rydian]

Yeah I run Mabinogi just fine without Abyss on this computer.  It only does it after i install Abyss.  It worked perfectly normal before this latest update...

Abyss is set up to load your installed Tiara mods by default.  Without manually packing and without Abyss, Tiara doesn't do anything (mabi won't load modded data files by default).

Rename your /data/ folder.  If Mabi works with it renamed, then it was your data folder mods.

Outdated data folder mods (like Tiara) can and WILL stop Mabi from working properly, it's a very common thing given how much Tiara edits.

[ShadowYoshi8039]

Abyss is set up to load your installed Tiara mods by default.  Without manually packing and without Abyss, Tiara doesn't do anything (mabi won't load modded data files by default).

Rename your /data/ folder.  If Mabi works with it renamed, then it was your data folder mods.

Outdated data folder mods (like Tiara) can and WILL stop Mabi from working properly, it's a very common thing given how much Tiara edits.

Oh I see now thank you haha its working now.

[Draconis.Pendragon]

It's in progress and rather off of the cuff, but admittedly... We've been up for a long time... There still hasn't been a recent guide of sorts listed dealing with Abyss and Tiara.  I'll work on it more later...
https://mabimods.net/index.php?topic=16570.0

*Update*
For the most part the guide is done. I might expand it later...

[fxyu]

Sorry, but i still cannot run mabinogi with abyss.

i just disable the data folder and it still give me the same error output.
Which I start client after the official updater, and gives a force exit error.

I don't know what to disable to run abyss correctly in TW server, any TW players know the clue?

[Draconis.Pendragon]

Sorry, but i still cannot run mabinogi with abyss.

i just disable the data folder and it still give me the same error output.
Which I start client after the official updater, and gives a force exit error.

I don't know what to disable to run abyss correctly in TW server, any TW players know the clue?

Your best bet is to backup your abyss.ini file. Then turn everything as far as options off, and see if it will even run with these off at all.  You should do this through editing the ini file, not through the gui via the client window top.  Also, to rule out Tiara or ANY mods, I personally wouldn't be running any mods of any sort until I ruled out Abyss.  Abyss is mainly for NA servers, but you can try to get it to work by as just mentioned.  Different clients, different memory addresses, etc. I'm not sure if anyone here has ever partaken in running Abyss on TW yet... If anyone has, please let us know.  You're pretty much exploring new territory here. Best of luck, and hopefully someone pops out of the woodwork.

*ADDENDUM*
You didn't mention anywhere else in any of your other posts but one:

Are there any ways to use abyss in TW server?
The mod like abyss I used for last 2 years was broken since last update.

I tried abyss on TW before and run smoothly, but it crash using this build yesterday.

about your concerns relating specifically to TW.  This is probably why you haven't received much help.  I hope Blade chimes in here to confirm.  I presume not, based on what I know of Abyss already, and that no one had answered your question.  You can also wait it out, and hope another version works, but otherwise as far as I can see we did answer your question.  You many want to look for other sources and options that are specific to your server just like CN has yydzh.

[[email protected]]

For some reason if I have abyss my pleione engine wont load 100% any help?

[Rydian]

For some reason if I have abyss my pleione engine wont load 100% any help?

Tiara is outdated, rename your /data/ folder to something else so that Abyss stops loading the outdated Tiara mods until Tiara gets an update.

[laggard]

Would you please add the anti-crash function back?

There are few players crashing entire channels in CN server right now, and I am worried that it might hit NA again sooner or later.

Thank you very much!

[Rydian]

Would you please add the anti-crash function back?

There are few players crashing entire channels in CN server right now, and I am worried that it might hit NA again sooner or later.

Thank you very much!

The anti-crash function was to stop people from crashing specific players via a Doki Doki bug.

If somebody crashes the channel you're on then you're going down, end of story, no mod can stop it.

[Aiden.Pearc3]

I may be late on this, but the ijl15.dll makes the client crash. For some reason, other players are still able to use it. I don't know why. The folders in my data file seems to be working, but when i throw in the ikjl15, it crashes my client. Even without the data file, it still crashes the client, so my bet is on my ijl15. Is it outdated? I don't know lol.

[╰(　´◔　ω　◔ `)╯]

I may be late on this, but the ijl15.dll makes the client crash. For some reason, other players are still able to use it. I don't know why. The folders in my data file seems to be working, but when i throw in the ikjl15, it crashes my client. Even without the data file, it still crashes the client, so my bet is on my ijl15. Is it outdated? I don't know lol.

do you have ijl15.dat in the folder?

[Draconis.Pendragon]

I may be late on this, but the ijl15.dll makes the client crash. For some reason, other players are still able to use it. I don't know why. The folders in my data file seems to be working, but when i throw in the ikjl15, it crashes my client. Even without the data file, it still crashes the client, so my bet is on my ijl15. Is it outdated? I don't know lol.

Latest ver of Abyss is 200 (though as in the subject, it's rather obvious lol) as of this moment of writing. You need both the dat and dll. the dll "hooks" to the dat (which is actually the original dll, just renamed) If you don't have both, you're going to have issues, and yes everything must be current.

[Aiden.Pearc3]

do you have ijl15.dat in the folder?

Yea I know what the ijl.dat is used for lol and yes I have both. The abyss ver and the original ver.

[Aiden.Pearc3]

Latest ver of Abyss is 200 (though as in the subject, it's rather obvious lol) as of this moment of writing. You need both the dat and dll. the dll "hooks" to the dat (which is actually the original dll, just renamed) If you don't have both, you're going to have issues, and yes everything must be current.

Yes I have the most recent one (R200). I am just gonna play without abyss for now and wait to see if there will be a next update soon.

[Draconis.Pendragon]

Yes I have the most recent one (R200). I am just gonna play without abyss for now and wait to see if there will be a next update soon.

Unless, there's a major revision to where it breaks some features that are often used in Abyss, I honestly don't see that happening.  What Blade usually does is keep a pretty good pulse on things as far as that.  Should something break or he notices that the dll changes, then he's pretty up to speed. 
Often times, myself included, it's often user error that causes the issues.  There's many a time that many have had to redo their data folders if they use more than Abyss.  For me as of late I work with updating Tiara, DataCami, DataCami_plus (just some add on and stability fixes that DataCami lacked due to being deprecated), Tiara-Cami (a merge of both), and Tiara-Cami_plus (my own personal mods added in.  So, I only mention this to give you an idea... Your data folder if you use one is like your lifeline, and if it gets "cut", or borked... Some interesting things happen.  So, in my case I've had to be very careful and attentive to what I'm doing.  I guess in my case OCD helps a bit lol.

Best of luck though~

[Aiden.Pearc3]

Alright so I found a new and weird problem upon trying to use abyss. I have managed to get into the character select section and when I select my main, it crashes mabi without any error whatsoever. So I asked myself, " What if I choose my elf?". So I picked my elf and low-n-behold, it went through. At this point I am just like "LOOOL WHAT THE!!!". So I logged off my elf and chose a different character. This time it was my other alternative Human Character. It also managed to go through without crashing the client. The only time it will crash is if I choose my main, which is also human. I may be getting somewhere, but I'm not too sure. Any theories or reasons why this is going on? If this needs to be put into the Tech Support section, I will move it there.

[Fl0rn]

Alright so I found a new and weird problem upon trying to use abyss. I have managed to get into the character select section and when I select my main, it crashes mabi without any error whatsoever. So I asked myself, " What if I choose my elf?". So I picked my elf and low-n-behold, it went through. At this point I am just like "LOOOL WHAT THE!!!". So I logged off my elf and chose a different character. This time it was my other alternative Human Character. It also managed to go through without crashing the client. The only time it will crash is if I choose my main, which is human. I may be getting somewhere, but I'm not too sure. Any theories or reasons why this is going on? If this needs to be put into the Tech Support section, I will move it there.

Can you confirm that it's abyss or tiara causing it?  I got my main locked at one point, by simply going from tara to blago. (think that's the vineyard)  Tested it with an alt and confirmed that was the cause by locking my alt too.  So if you haven't, do check and confirm it's a mod and not nexowned.

[Aiden.Pearc3]

Can you confirm that it's abyss or tiara causing it?  I got my main locked at one point, by simply going from tara to blago. (think that's the vineyard)  Tested it with an alt and confirmed that was the cause by locking my alt too.  So if you haven't, do check and confirm it's a mod and not nexowned.

For sure, it's abyss. I know that for a fact. lol. I don't have any tiara mods whatsoever other than mod_sharker. By lock, I'm assuming being at a certain area where it won't load at all? My main is located in dunbarton, so there's no way it can crash there (not in my knowledge that is). My human alt is located in dunbarton and it did not crash the client. But for sure, it's abyss lol.

---Update---

Here are some puushes when I have abyss
Alt human in dunbarton: http://puu.sh/g7wtk/e9c8c53201.jpg
Other Alt Human in bank: http://puu.sh/g7wxc/ca82685618.jpg

Main Human with abyss & mod_sharker:
Before: http://puu.sh/g7wzC/263f6943e3.png
After: http://puu.sh/g7wDg/1edc645079.jpg

^Client crashes with no errors.

[Rydian]

Screenshot your Mabi folder?

[Aiden.Pearc3]

Screenshot your Mabi folder?

AbyssLog:



^Those are the only 2 files I have in data folder

[╰(　´◔　ω　◔ `)╯]

^Those are the only 2 files I have in data folder

And what exactly is in that db folder? That could clearly matter a lot.

[Draconis.Pendragon]

For sure, it's abyss. I know that for a fact. lol. I don't have any tiara mods whatsoever other than mod_sharker. By lock, I'm assuming being at a certain area where it won't load at all? My main is located in dunbarton, so there's no way it can crash there (not in my knowledge that is). My human alt is located in dunbarton and it did not crash the client. But for sure, it's abyss lol.

---Update---

Here are some puushes when I have abyss
Alt human in dunbarton: http://puu.sh/g7wtk/e9c8c53201.jpg
Other Alt Human in bank: http://puu.sh/g7wxc/ca82685618.jpg

Main Human with abyss & mod_sharker:
Before: http://puu.sh/g7wzC/263f6943e3.png
After: http://puu.sh/g7wDg/1edc645079.jpg

^Client crashes with no errors.

OK,
You're convinced that the problem is Abyss, but have been asked to rule out your data folder.  Until you do that, as a troubleshooting measure... There's no confirming that it's Abyss either.  Whatever is IN your "data" folder matters a LOT.  I speak from experience as do Fl0rn and thatguysteve, as well as many others.  We mean no disrespect (well, usually lol), but it can be frustrating trying to help someone when they're being uncooperative.  I've been there myself on your end, and until I did exactly as I was asked, there were no definitive results.  You refer to there only being 2 "files" in your folder, but... those are clearly directories, and the contents matter a lot.  Those 2 directories cause the most issues out of any directories, aside from ...\data\xml\  and ...\data\local.  The ...\data\code\ and ...data\db are the other 2 main ones that cause issues when they're outdated.
So, to rule out your data folder, please do in this order:
1.  Close Abyss aka Hackshield and make sure your client is closed when doing this.
2.  (Optional) Run DataPacker, and choose to remove mods, if this is how you use your data folder.  Make sure you do this before the next step. Also remember to do this, should you decided to remove/delete your data folder later, or you'll hose your .packs. If you use Abyss only with just your data folder then disregard the DataPacker part, and just proceed to the next step.
3.  Rename your data folder to like "bakdata".  Also go into abyss.ini and set data folder=0 (These measures are to entirely exclude in all ways that data folder)
4.  Run Abyss (Hackshield) and then your Mabinogi client. 
5. Screen shot your folders if you wish to show us, that you did those changes.  Also, please screen shot any errors if you get any.  This helps immensely in trying to troubleshoot, provided the info that we need is in those shots.

Some quick notes:
Did you update Nexonguard?  This can also cause some of your issues with the client, as the client relies on that.  Please see my guide in my sig (do a CTR+F to search for Nexonguard).  You also mentioned that you use mod_sharker.dll  Since you're using this, I presume you know how to disable it.  You want to disable this as well in the loaddll section to confirm that it's Abyss only that is the issue.  There are many patches that mod_sharker currently uses that are outdated.  Mod_kirisame has nothing to do with your issues btw, it's part of Abyss and works as intended.  Blade used the code from that and gave credit where it's due, hence why he mentions it in the boot up of Abyss, and also mentions it on the first page of this thread.

[Aiden.Pearc3]

And what exactly is in that db folder? That could clearly matter a lot.

lol sorry. Here it is.
DB:

[Aiden.Pearc3]

OK,
You're convinced that the problem is Abyss, but have been asked to rule out your data folder.  Until you do that, as a troubleshooting measure... There's no confirming that it's Abyss either.  Whatever is IN your "data" folder matters a LOT.  I speak from experience as do Fl0rn and thatguysteve, as well as many others.  We mean no disrespect (well, usually lol), but it can be frustrating trying to help someone when they're being uncooperative.  I've been there myself on your end, and until I did exactly as I was asked, there were no definitive results.  You refer to there only being 2 "files" in your folder, but... those are clearly directories, and the contents matter a lot.  Those 2 directories cause the most issues out of any directories, aside from ...\data\xml\  and ...\data\local.  The ...\data\code\ and ...data\db are the other 2 main ones that cause issues when they're outdated.
So, to rule out your data folder, please do in this order:
1.  Close Abyss aka Hackshield and make sure your client is closed when doing this.
2.  (Optional) Run DataPacker, and choose to remove mods, if this is how you use your data folder.  Make sure you do this before the next step. Also remember to do this, should you decided to remove/delete your data folder later, or you'll hose your .packs. If you use Abyss only with just your data folder then disregard the DataPacker part, and just proceed to the next step.
3.  Rename your data folder to like "bakdata".  Also go into abyss.ini and set data folder=0 (These measures are to entirely exclude in all ways that data folder)
4.  Run Abyss (Hackshield) and then your Mabinogi client. 
5. Screen shot your folders if you wish to show us, that you did those changes.  Also, please screen shot any errors if you get any.  This helps immensely in trying to troubleshoot, provided the info that we need is in those shots.

Some quick notes:
Did you update Nexonguard?  This can also cause some of your issues with the client, as the client relies on that.  Please see my guide in my sig (do a CTR+F to search for Nexonguard).  You also mentioned that you use mod_sharker.dll  Since you're using this, I presume you know how to disable it.  You want to disable this as well in the loaddll section to confirm that it's Abyss only that is the issue.  There are many patches that mod_sharker currently uses that are outdated.  Mod_kirisame has nothing to do with your issues btw, it's part of Abyss and works as intended.  Blade used the code from that and gave credit where it's due, hence why he mentions it in the boot up of Abyss, and also mentions it on the first page of this thread.

Alright lol. Give me a min or so. And thanks for your help.

--Update--

In the previous comment, there were request on seeing what is inside my 2 folders. Here they are. The directories can be seen on top. Even if you know that by now lol (Just a FYI, these are from the tiara 198):

Code File


DB File





If there is anything else I am missing, let me know. Again, I appreciate the help guys. and sorry if I am being a burden lol.

Okay Dendragon. Here are the snapshots that you wanted to see to make sure I have made changes.
http://puu.sh/g89bN/aea0fcbdcc.png
http://puu.sh/g89dd/81583ddb38.png
http://puu.sh/g89P5/2c74ad1c80.png

No errors are shown after the crash. If there was one, I would've puushed that as well lol

Before


After
[url=http://puu.sh/g8aAf/d4fe04a6fd.png]http://puu.sh/g8aAf/d4fe04a6fd.png

Sidenote: Yea I know about the mod_kirisame lol. I just highlighted and pasted it onto google to see what it was. Just forgot to unhighliight it before I did a puush.