[September 3, 2023]Abyss Patcher

[bladefury]

Notice: this post was posted both in the Tiara and Abyss topics as I'm not entirely sure which caused the issue.

OKAY SO... As Crackshield for Abyss kept force closing every few mins for no reason on my comp, I decided to take out Abyss and play with only Tiara... Once I pressed start game, when the Hackshield Loading popup was supposed to appear on the bottom right corner of my screen (After hitting Start game, before client popped up), this appeared in it's place:



And then Mabinogi didn't complete executing. So I turned it on again and this time a new fancy version appeared:



and upon reaching the login screen, Mabinogi experiences this error:



..meaning that a hack threat has been detected.

So now I find myself unable to use neither Abyss nor Tiara... Two questions:

1. What is NexonGuard?
2. Am I the only one experiencing this issue? If so, how do I fix it? ):

[Rydian]

Screenshot the contents of your mabinogi folder.

[ShaggyZE]

your not the only one who has made that mistake and the problem is neither Abyss or Tiara, but CrackShield.
NexonGuard is Nexon's new anti hack program that serves almost zero purpose

you need to run C:\Nexon\Mabinogi\HShield\HSUpdate.exe while crackshield is closed, then you can put Abyss back in if you still have it removed, then run hslaunch.exe (crackshield)

also data folder mods like UO Tiara do not cause hackshield errors.

[bladefury]

your not the only one who has made that mistake and the problem is neither Abyss or Tiara, but CrackShield.
NexonGuard is Nexon's new anti hack program that serves almost zero purpose

you need to run C:\Nexon\Mabinogi\HShield\HSUpdate.exe while crackshield is closed, then you can put Abyss back in if you still have it removed, then run hslaunch.exe (crackshield)

also data folder mods like UO Tiara do not cause hackshield errors.

Mine's just a clean copy of Mabinogi with Tiara only and no Abyss... I got the NexonGuard Error AFTER I uninstalled Abyss and updated HS and what not. Also... what could've be shutting off Crackshield every few mins?

---UPDATE:---
I just clean installed everythingg and fixed the issue but just for future reference... what could've been the issue? x.x

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Screenshot the contents of your mabinogi folder.

[ShaggyZE]

you might not have fully removed abyss or had crackshield open during one of the updates causing your package files to become corrupt and it didn't let hackshield/nexon guard update all the way.
and the only way to fix that is deleting your package files and versions.dat or to do a clean install.

[╰(　´◔　ω　◔ `)╯]

you might not have fully removed abyss or had crackshield open during one of the updates causing your package files to become corrupt and it didn't let hackshield/nexon guard update all the way.

Why is it neither of those things have anything to do with the package files?

[ShaggyZE]

yea they do, when crackshield is open during an update it will stop an update when extracting client.exe and can corrupt package files or perform half updates during maintenance.

[╰(　´◔　ω　◔ `)╯]

yea they do, when crackshield is open during an update it will stop an update when extracting client.exe and can corrupt package files or perform half updates during maintenance.

client.exe may be locked while crackshield is open, but that has nothing to do with package files... Not to mention, packages are not modified when patching, packages are added (with the exception of language.pack, and even so, the entire package is extracted before replacing... still has nothing to do with it).
Also, iirc, the patcher performs a step to prevent corrupt patching.

And, even if you have corrupt packages, you don't get a hackshield error, you get a clean crash (no pop up, nothing).

[ShaggyZE]

the contents are put into temp folders and nexon's launcher is unreliable when resuming (which is why third party launchers exist) so a locked client.exe is enough for nexon to fail and any file not updated correctly wither it be mabi files like client.exe, packages, nexon guard or hackshield itself with an old file will cause hackshield errors.

[Ninjatwinky]

client.exe may be locked while crackshield is open, but that has nothing to do with package files... Not to mention, packages are not modified when patching, packages are added (with the exception of language.pack, and even so, the entire package is extracted before replacing... still has nothing to do with it).
Also, iirc, the patcher performs a step to prevent corrupt patching.

And, even if you have corrupt packages, you don't get a hackshield error, you get a clean crash (no pop up, nothing).

Whenever I'm stupid enough to leave CrackShield open when I'm patching, it always gets the the language.pack extraction on the patcher, then says something like, "There was a problem extracting the files...etc" and I always just close CrackShield and just repatch it.

Finishes fine, no problems.  Never once have I had to delete the package or the version.dat after a failed patching.

[Rydian]

I had to hex-edit version.dat once to mark me as being behind an update so the official patcher would download the latest client and such after a half-failed update with the official launcher once.  It's just a single byte (for now) in hex denoting the version number.

[╰(　´◔　ω　◔ `)╯]

the contents are put into temp folders and nexon's launcher is unreliable when resuming (which is why third party launchers exist) so a locked client.exe is enough for nexon to fail and any file not updated correctly wither it be mabi files like client.exe, packages, nexon guard or hackshield itself with an old file will cause hackshield errors.

If a patch fails because of a locked client, the patcher DOES NOT perform the update.

The patcher also makes backup of your old files BEFORE REPLACING THEM. If for any reason the patch fails, THE BACK UPS ARE USED.

Even if you disconnect while patching, the client does not RESUME file part, it ABORTS. It will begin downloading from THE FAILED PART, meaning THE PATCH NOT CORRUPT.

If HShield/NXGuard is not up-to-date, it will UPDATE.

Again, PACKAGE FILES do not cause HACKSHIELD ERRORS.

If your patch fails for any reason (including a locked client), THE PATCHER KNOWS. It will NOT CHANGE TO THE NEW VERSION. (WTF?)


Hell. He even states that he does not use abyss. Meaning the only way for his client to have been locked would be if he was RUNNING MABINOGI while trying to patch. Even so, that's only possible if he MODDED HIS LAUNCHER, which is doubtful because there'd be 0 reasons to.

[ShaggyZE]

he said he uninstalled abyss (fully or not?), which may be right (given when he did and wither it affected anything) and sure, your right it may have nothing to do with either, and he might not have left it half installed and yea it wouldn't have effected his updating causing any file to be corrupted and sure i may have answered more tech support issues with dealing with why package files can be corrupted and of course you are smarter then me but let me start off with saying all i said was

you might not have fully removed abyss or had crackshield open

so i 'might' have been wrong and you might just want to argue with me instead of agreeing to whatever possibility's do occur, i've answered so many more questions then anyone is willing to that i simplify my meanings and never yell, bold or capitalized because i have more patience than anyone else.
but hey i tried.

i don't really care but to say this post was posted on uo tiara thread as well so i responded to help and it's obviously not a problem with package or data files... ie not a uo tiara issue, and whatever reinstalling did to solve the problem was a failed update or removal of modded file that do cause hackshield problems which would most likely be nexon's launcher as sh*t does indeed happen.

also just because nexon's launcher works that well for you in creating such perfect routines doesn't mean it does for everyone else, i know people that use power patcher and no mods at all because nexon's launcher will not work for their computer due to speed or third party software interfering.

my apologies blade3575 this is my last post on the matter.

[Yiting]

every official update package will always contain latest HShield folder to prevent modification, so if you keep crackshield open during updating, the patcher will not able to replace them and cause update fail (whatever those files should be changed or not).

in addition, running HShield\HSUpdate.exe will NOT update your hackshield, it just downloads the updater into HShield\Update folder, but never apply it.
an alternative way is running HSUpdate.vbs included in latest crackshield, it also helps to remove those garbage log files and registries.

[kirbysama]

Heads up?, I don't seem to be able to hot-swap features using slash commands anymore, nor by directly editing the INI.

If you get around to looking into this, that'd be lovely

Thanks for the hard work, as usual.

[Ninjatwinky]

Heads up?, I don't seem to be able to hot-swap features using slash commands anymore, nor by directly editing the INI.

If you get around to looking into this, that'd be lovely

Thanks for the hard work, as usual.

I believe, and correct me if I'm wrong blade, but for me if you reload the .ini you crash, and /commands are just trivial (hates remembering things) when you can just right click the icon on your taskbar and turn off/on mods there.

Thats always worked for me, (.ini reload doesnt, never has for me).

[NovaDracon28]

This is just a request to move the FPS that is in this from the upper left corner cause the skill icon's get in the way of the display (preferably to the center or the upper right corner)

[Ninjatwinky]

This is just a request to move the FPS that is in this from the upper left corner cause the skill icon's get in the way of the display (preferably to the center or the upper right corner)

Alternate fix, change the value in the .ini to 0, download Fraps, use that instead, as you can move that to any corner you would like.

It's just a suggestion, and would be easier on blade, and a faster more reliable fix for you.

[NovaDracon28]

Alternate fix, change the value in the .ini to 0, download Fraps, use that instead, as you can move that to any corner you would like.

It's just a suggestion, and would be easier on blade, and a faster more reliable fix for you.

Thx for the suggestion ninja but I'm not using it for the fps counter, I'm using it for the time and weather read-out it has

[Ninjatwinky]

The game now has a built in time and weather read out.
Its on teh clock feature.
It'll tell you when its cloudy, raining, thundering, etc.
As well as with the true clock abyss mod, it will have second compatibility.

[Sozen Cratos Focker]

The four picture weather display on the clock is useless(except maybe for the forecast part), it doesn't tell you anything you don't know from just looking at the rest of the screen. Having the exact weather strength number is useful sometimes.

[ShaggyZE]

Abyss has a weather display?

[「★Ｓ２９★シ」]

Abyss has a weather display?

He's talking about the FPS View with the weather factor.
If you don't really care about the weather view, I pretty much agree.

[Ninjatwinky]

I've never, in all my years, heard Mabi having a different effect for variant strengths of weather, if its thundering, no matter how strong, it's thundering and all effects related to thunder will be applied.

The strength factor is never useful, as it is just a true number, like the true durability, which is 100kx more useful.

[Sozen Cratos Focker]

I've never, in all my years, heard Mabi having a different effect for variant strengths of weather, if its thundering, no matter how strong, it's thundering and all effects related to thunder will be applied.

The strength factor is never useful, as it is just a true number, like the true durability, which is 100kx more useful.

You have now. Well, the effects are the same, but the strength of the effect varies with the strength of the weather. Thundering always has the same effect because there's only one level of thundering, but rain strength has like 10x as much variety as sunny/cloudy, and there is a significant difference in some production/gathering bonuses between weak rain and strong rain.