[September 3, 2023]Abyss Patcher

[Europe]

My report for those, who are curious - the game works fine with crackshield and abyss except one tiny non critical thing - when the client launches an error window pops up. It is about client.exe, which of course hints that you shouldn't terminate this window, or the client will close. And it really closes if you do.
So - with error window moved somewhere, but not closed - mabi is fine and well.

Still, it's *my* report, can't tell if it's so smooth for others.

Also I'm wondering if it's hard or not to remove that tiny error thing (crackshield update is needed I presume, but maaaybe some genius piece of code from blade/plone/step?)

You're using Windows XP I'd guess, since I don't get this error on my Win 7/8 machines, but I get it on the XP VM I've been using.
I've not deleted anything other than the NexonGuard folder on the VM.

I've deleted all .aes files, Blackcipher and NexonGuard folders on my win 7 machine, no issues, other than it just recreating the NexonGuard folder with logs.


What DOES cause an error though, is deleting the NGGate.bin in the main folder. Instant "NexonGuard cannot run zomgzfuckeverythingflipstable" issue.

[Tanoak]

You're using Windows XP I'd guess, since I don't get this error on my Win 7/8 machines, but I get it on the XP VM I've been using.

Really... How strange...

You guys are still getting the errors on Windows XP? My XP system is running Mabi just fine since after the Aces update. Only issue I get is when I want to reinstall it and I get the "Can't open the zip file" error (Easily fixed by using 7 Zip). Haven't deleted anything either, and it's still running smoothly.

[Plonecakes]

Makes you wonder if they'll drop Hackshield sooner or later, or just run NG alongside it.

They can't, BlackCipher uses HackShield as well, as I recall...

[katiebat]

My report for those, who are curious - the game works fine with crackshield and abyss except one tiny non critical thing - when the client launches an error window pops up. It is about client.exe, which of course hints that you shouldn't terminate this window, or the client will close. And it really closes if you do.
So - with error window moved somewhere, but not closed - mabi is fine and well.

Still, it's *my* report, can't tell if it's so smooth for others.

Also I'm wondering if it's hard or not to remove that tiny error thing (crackshield update is needed I presume, but maaaybe some genius piece of code from blade/plone/step?)

I used to get those errors on Vista, before I started using mods.  Haven't had them since I switched to 7.

[Lady Playtime]

lolwindowsvista

[katiebat]

It was a free computer, it came with Vista, I played around with it and found out it really was as bad as I'd heard.

[Lady Playtime]

I remember my old Vista...  It's now my parents, and within a week of it out of my hands, I get a call to go repair it...
Apparently, on top of being horrible, windows Vista is not parent-friendly.

And my unrelated post of the day > I'm not parent-friendly either.

[Europe]

Really... How strange...

You guys are still getting the errors on Windows XP? My XP system is running Mabi just fine since after the Aces update. Only issue I get is when I want to reinstall it and I get the "Can't open the zip file" error (Easily fixed by using 7 Zip). Haven't deleted anything either, and it's still running smoothly.

Still? I only started getting this with the new update.
It's only a remote VM that I use for merchanting though, so I don't really care about the error, or I'd have put effort in to fixing it. Maybe.
I'm pretty sure that if I remove all the mods and run the client normally\copy another version in, it'll all resolve itself.

They can't, BlackCipher uses HackShield as well, as I recall...

I had assumed this, as it stopped doing pretty much anything after I put crackshield back in. Still makes logs though :<

[Blade3575]

Info I've gathered on NexonGuard:

Doesn't seem to have anything to do with BlackCipher, at least currently and that I saw (BlackCipher.aes isn't running, modules aren't loaded, log dates are still old).

NGGate.bin and NGCore.bin are loaded into the Client. Functions in both seem to be obfuscated at a quick glance.

NGXXXX.tmp files, where XXXX is a seemingly random hexadecimal number, get put in your %TEMP% folder. They will keep being generated too, which may take up a nice amount of drive space if left unchecked. Two will be created and loaded into the Client each time it is run but doesn't seem to get deleted when closing.

Encrypted logs, as usual.

eTracer.aes is the Nexon crash report? "Tasket: If you receive the e-tracer pop up at any point after the crash, please click the send button." Haven't checked it personally.

Most of this information is fairly easy to obtain, nothing is in depth at all, but that's what I have with the little time I looked into it.

[hiesavel]

*looks at thread*

I almost was asleep when I edited my post, and only now I see that some of you answered to the first version.
Anyway, with fully updated NG there is no error, so it's not a problem of xp, though what Europe said about vm is interesting too.

Things as I saw them in the end:
175 patch gives only NGGate.bin. With crackshield NG can't launch its updater, so I assume the first (small and with fewer files) NexonGuard folder is simply extracted from (or generated by) this NGGate.bin. I may be wrong.

But at first when I saw this little folder I thought "oh, it's normal new NG, okay", that's why I didn't understand where the error came from (and it came because I didn't have full up to date NG).

..And why does that stupid thing needs the same etracer in both client folder and NG folder.

ps - I can say that I've had no problems with mabi on xp whatsoever, even this mysterious remove-the-midibank-for-no-apparent-reason-or-can't-play.
And it's true still, since I've explained the new "error".

[Tanoak]

Still? I only started getting this with the new update.
It's only a remote VM that I use for merchanting though, so I don't really care about the error, or I'd have put effort in to fixing it. Maybe.
I'm pretty sure that if I remove all the mods and run the client normally\copy another version in, it'll all resolve itself.

I had assumed this, as it stopped doing pretty much anything after I put crackshield back in. Still makes logs though :<

The first time the XP errors happened for was when they released the Enlightening Update, and from then until Aces, I could not get the client to work at all due to the Pleone engine not functioning properly, even after reinstalling. There was a huge thread on the Nexon forums about it as well, but since it's working for me now, haven't gone back to check on it. Oddly, removing of the MXSpirit file didn't help at all, it just didn't want to work at all, modded or non-modded.

Though, right now, I'm running a freshly installed client with the most current mods installed, and it seems to be just fine now. Think for those that haven't done a clean install for a while and running XP, it's best to reinstall from scratch and work from there. At least, I find that best for me... ^^;

[Europe]

;Sets starting position and size of the Client.
WindowPosition=1
WindowPositionX=-8
WindowPositionY=-30
WindowPositionWidth=1936
WindowPositionHeight=1080

Maximum screen client, for anyone using 1920x1080, but with the border cut off, because it looks much neater that way.


Since you're digging around in the display portion of the client Blade, do you think you could disable that irritating "feature" of the client, where it moves itself back to the default screen on login/changing channel/logout, screensaver activation, etc?

It's not a big deal for me personally, since I just started using a VM on a server for long term multi-clienting anyway, but I'm sure it's something that other people would appreciate.

[Blade3575]

Since you're digging around in the display portion of the client Blade, do you think you could disable that irritating "feature" of the client, where it moves itself back to the default screen on login/changing channel/logout, screensaver activation, etc?

I didn't do any real testing with this, so not sure what you're talking about. All I did was hook the window creation and change the options to what I wanted. Was a little annoying due to some complications with strcmp so I had to go another route, but otherwise seemed fine. Are you saying it changes the position and size when you do that stuff?

[Europe]

I didn't do any real testing with this, so not sure what you're talking about. All I did was hook the window creation and change the options to what I wanted. Was a little annoying due to some complications with strcmp so I had to go another route, but otherwise seemed fine. Are you saying it changes the position and size when you do that stuff?

It only changes position, the size remains constant (Unless it's set above the screen's resolution, as mine is). It's just ALWAYS moved the client back to the default screen on any redraw/relog event.

It's not your patch, just an odd thing the client has always done, and it ONLY does it if your client is on a different monitor than the default one, or probably the one you select in the client options.


If you've got a second monitor, put the client in the alternate display, and then login. It instantly moves to be in the screen it started in, which is annoying if you have multiple clients on multiple screens.


Again, it's not a big deal, it'd just be nice if you got the chance to fix it.

[「★Ｓ２９★シ」]

It only changes position, the size remains constant (Unless it's set above the screen's resolution, as mine is). It's just ALWAYS moved the client back to the default screen on any redraw/relog event.

It's not your patch, just an odd thing the client has always done, and it ONLY does it if your client is on a different monitor than the default one, or probably the one you select in the client options.


If you've got a second monitor, put the client in the alternate display, and then login. It instantly moves to be in the screen it started in, which is annoying if you have multiple clients on multiple screens.


Again, it's not a big deal, it'd just be nice if you got the chance to fix it.

Does it do that when you go to Options in game as well?

[Europe]

Does it do that when you go to Options in game as well?

It does it:

On loading the character select.
On actually logging in to a character (and so, when you change channels too)
When you open/close the options.
When the screensaver is activated.

Those are the only events I've encountered, but as you can imagine, that's quite enough for a moderate level of annoyance.

[「★Ｓ２９★シ」]

It does it:

On loading the character select.
On actually logging in to a character (and so, when you change channels too)
When you open/close the options.
When the screensaver is activated.

Those are the only events I've encountered, but as you ca\n imagine, that's quite enough for a moderate level of annoyance.

I personally don't think this is possible to fix. This has been a known bug for YEARS and seems to be in conflict with the hardware plus the client. While it doesn't happen with me when I play in window mode, it surely happens a lot more worst when you play in fullscreen. But I have no experience with 2 monitors 

[Europe]

I personally don't think this is possible to fix. This has been a known bug for YEARS and seems to be in conflict with the hardware plus the client. While it doesn't happen with me when I play in window mode, it surely happens a lot more worst when you play in fullscreen. But I have no experience with 2 monitors 

I've noticed it for a long time, but I was just wondering if it were possible to fix.

[Akeno]

Abyss' bitmap fonts seem to miss the apostrophe character and replace it with a question mark.

[「★Ｓ２９★シ」]

Abyss' bitmap fonts seem to miss the apostrophe character and replace it with a question mark.

You might be using an European or a different kind of English Language setting on your keyboard.
http://snowball.tartarus.org/texts/apostrophe.html

If you're still having issues, you might want to try out EnableCJK located on mod_sharker

[Akeno]

Well, my US keyboard format currently has the backslash as a yen symbol but pressing it always produces the backslash anyways. I can also type the apostrophe but it appears in things like "Open Pilot?s manual upon takeoff" incorrectly.

[NeuroticX]

I have a few quick question.

Where it says -
";Modify the quality of screenshots.
;   Patch by spr33.
ScreenshotQuality=90"
soo whats the 90 for and also what would be the highest possible setting?

also another one
";0=normal, 1=union of zoom range, 2=fixed zoom range
;   Patch by creator of kirisame.
Zoom=1
ZoomMin=200
ZoomMax=3000"

Whats the max range on this~
and max min! :3
Plz and ty <3 

[Plonecakes]

I have a few quick question.

Where it says -
";Modify the quality of screenshots.
;   Patch by spr33.
ScreenshotQuality=90"
soo whats the 90 for and also what would be the highest possible setting?

also another one
";0=normal, 1=union of zoom range, 2=fixed zoom range
;   Patch by creator of kirisame.
Zoom=1
ZoomMin=200
ZoomMax=3000"

Whats the max range on this~
and max min! :3
Plz and ty <3 

The first is a quality percentage. The lower it is, the less space the screenshots take up, and the higher it is, the better looking they are. 100 is the highest quality setting.

The zoom min and max are not limited, really. I don't believe you can use negates in the INI, but you may be able to. -5 is the lowest value that makes sense. However, the high is limited only by the size of a four byte signed integer (that's 2147483647).

[Akeno]

Since we're on the subject of zoom range, care explaining 1 and 2? is the fixed zoom range just always maxed?

[NeuroticX]

The first is a quality percentage. The lower it is, the less space the screenshots take up, and the higher it is, the better looking they are. 100 is the highest quality setting.

The zoom min and max are not limited, really. I don't believe you can use negates in the INI, but you may be able to. -5 is the lowest value that makes sense. However, the high is limited only by the size of a four byte signed integer (that's 2147483647).

Thx for the replay :3
I appreciate it when my nub questions are answered ;>///>