[September 3, 2023]Abyss Patcher

[ShaggyZE]

I feel sad whenever I'm forced to see the source of autobot, so I guess we're even there.

Although, I'm interested to know why you think that because I come here, that I should post things for you to use.

Is it because you help people, that I should immediately rush to do the same?
Perhaps it's because I could do something better?
Or is it simply because I can make things (and generally read), that I must help the masses?


I'm grateful to Blade and Yiting for making and updating their works, but frankly, I find it more impressive that they continue to do so, even in the face of the general populace demanding support/updates the moment something doesn't work.

And, on the subject of "what you do for the community"; You are one of the driving forces behind the perpetuation of stupidity and self-entitlement on this site.
Tiara is a crutch for those people who don't want to learn anything at all, who simply become part of that idiotic group, clamouring for updates the moment their modifications no longer work, god forbid that Yiting or Blade have lives of their own.
Some of these people don't even know how to remove their modifications, because you've "mollycoddled" them so much.

For the most part, I don't post anything I work on, simply because I so swiftly grow weary of the self entitlement of the average user here.
I highly doubt I'm the only one who feels that way.


I get that you want to feel needed/appreciated, but perhaps you'd like to take a moment to reflect on what YOU are doing for the community, long term.

call it what you will, you can blame me for the stupidy of the people, but at least i try to help; wither that help is a crutch or not i at least respect people and will die happy because i tried.

[maui123]

Can we NOT have arguments on this thread? It's not for that. Take it to PM's or something.

I completely agree with you Blade. People don't want to act civilized or  take it private. However people will be people and there isn't a way to prevent the arguments...

[ShaggyZE]

i'll +1 that as it was my original statement.

[nyxz]

i dont post here at all, but i see a lot of people complaining a lot. people like ShaggyZE and Blade, Yiting etc, you all should just block out the people who are complaining about your work, or giving you a hard time. but i guess if there wasnt people like that, you guys wouldnt be doing such a good job ya know? people need haters to keep them goin. my opinion.

Honestly there arent people out there that can do this all the time, taking your time to make this game playable again. I kinda see a lot of people who dont follow directions how to install or who complain that you are taking too long fixing them up for each patch, but honestly thats work. and FREE if i might add.

 I lag my butt*edited* off with 8 gigs of ram, i3 processor and geforce gtx 550 ti graphics card, and this is my first time posting, so i wanted to say thank you.
 I dunno really what the issue is with people arguing and what not since i didnt read, but i felt that everyone should just give you a little thanks every so often for the stuff youre doing, FOR FREE, and my fault if this is off topic too. i wanted to put this out there. i dont know anyone here personally but keep up the good work.

[Wirindre]

Hi there, first of all great work! Fan of your work.


Small question to others,  can you confirm if MabiDirect Launch is working ?

I can log in second window, I can type in 2ndary password, but when I press start, and after screen loads to enter world... I get HS error,

Someone can confirm  you get the same?  or it's just me.. .

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1_) I downloaded the Abyss
2) downloaded MabiDirect Launch,

*1 works... but with 2... I fail.

[hiesavel]

Direct launch is simply Client.exe code:1622 ver:169 logip:208.85.109.35 logport:11000 chatip:208.85.109.37 chatport:8002 setting:"file://data/features.xml=Regular, USA", how can it not work?

If even FOR THIS there is some separate software, that's hilarious.

[Wirindre]

Uhh.. I don't seem to understand your reply..

I'll rephrase the question, so you confirmed it works?

I had no problems befor, using this. (Since last change)

"I can log in second window, I can type in 2ndary password, but when I press start, and after screen loads to enter world... I get HS error, " (maybe it's not written clearly, but I mean logging on a 2nd client,  ofcourse one works fine)

[taichiisoulcross]

Uhh.. I don't seem to understand your reply..

I'll rephrase the question, so you confirmed it works?

I had no problems befor, using this. (Since last change)

"I can log in second window, I can type in 2ndary password, but when I press start, and after screen loads to enter world... I get HS error, " (maybe it's not written clearly, but I mean logging on a 2nd client,  ofcourse one works fine)

happened to me this morning.. just clear cache on the mabinogi on your my documents folder and you'll be fine

[Blade3575]

Uhh.. I don't seem to understand your reply..

I'll rephrase the question, so you confirmed it works?

I had no problems befor, using this. (Since last change)

"I can log in second window, I can type in 2ndary password, but when I press start, and after screen loads to enter world... I get HS error, " (maybe it's not written clearly, but I mean logging on a 2nd client,  ofcourse one works fine)

happened to me this morning.. just clear cache on the mabinogi on your my documents folder and you'll be fine

Made a cleaner for it a while back. I have PowerPatcher set to run it before the Client is launched every time. This is set to not delete the pet list cache so the order of your pets will be preserved. Might be helpful for other people. Source is included.

[Fl0rn]

Wanted to touch on the 'help or don't help' thing, i rambled though.  No hard feelings if ignored.
Situational, if you know the person/situation that they are posting out of or just have an insightful guess. 

I know some people come on and post while at work.  I've responded to a post or two like this, and while the poster didn't come out and say it till a few hours, or sometimes days, later, the content in the post gave a rushed impression leading me personally to be a bit more lenient till i heard back from the poster.  I may point the person in the right direction, but i try not to straight out hand them the answer until i get a reasonable response back because i can only guess at why the contents of their post are lacking.

As for directing people to read the guides, yeah i do approve of a player learning the basics of modding if they're going to ask questions.  Simply data folder edits, knowing/finding out what goes where, and seeing if a mabinogi update has rendered one of your mods obsolete.  Don't have to be able to update the mods yourself, but i feel the other mentioned items all consist of basics if you want to mod.  Otherwise you should have one person or a specific group of people, who would be willing to dedicate their time to help you.

That said, i think finding the right guide can be frustrating, because it has to suit the individual's needs as well as being an up to date guide.  Videos, images, or just straight text and some links.  While i don't know what exists for mabinogi specifically, there are a variety of guides that exist out there, and you need one that works best for you.  I, for example, would much prefer a simple text guide with pictures here and there for the majority of computer stuff.  Videos take too long, and sometimes pictures are faster than trying to spell out some of the seemingly simple things. 
Had to clean the CD lens on an old X-Box the other day, and i had never opened one up before.  Something like that i'd rather a video guide, because i can find videos with multiple angles on the X-Box and components, which was essential for me in learning and feeling confident in what i was doing.

So, before you're too quick to judge, i'd recommend practicing your empathy and insight, as even if your stance don't change, it can make a big difference in how you come across.

[Wirindre]

Ty Taichii, Blade, for the quick reply/solution

[Tyson]

I have nothing but praise for you Blade and the rest of you for your continued efforts in education and modding. Thanks yo

plzgivemepake

[Sharugami]

For some reason abyss is still broken for me.
I run Mabinogi.exe while hslaunch.exe is running and nothing happens.
I've tried reinstalling manually changing the directory in the registry.
I've wiped my computer clean of everything Mabinogi and tried again today with a reinstall but the same problem persist.
Abyss does what it has to do in the log it creates and everything is fine there but the game just won't run.


I have Win7 64bit
Any help would be greatly appreciated. (2nd time posting on this thread regarding this issue)

Update:I tried running without abyss in my client and it worked the second I put abyss into my client and try to run it doesn't work.

Update #2: I've managed to figure out the problem. Sorry to bother everyone ^^! Hopefully it can be resolved in a timely manner.

[Wirindre]

random thought... try running  hsshield with  administration rights?

Sorry can't help..

[Armchair]

Nothing seems to be broken in r170

[10/30/13 12:13:29] - Source created by Blade3575 and Plonecakes for MabiMods
[10/30/13 12:13:29] - Credits: kotarou3, spr33 and whoever made mod_kirisame.
[10/30/13 12:13:29] - Initialization successful.
[10/30/13 12:13:29] - IJL hook installation successful.
[10/30/13 12:13:29] - Applying unpack detection hooks..
[10/30/13 12:13:29] - Finished applying unpack detection hooks.
[10/30/13 12:13:30] - Client unpacked.
[10/30/13 12:13:30] - Reverting unpack detection hooks..
[10/30/13 12:13:30] - LoadDLL undefined
[10/30/13 12:13:30] - Applying patches..
[10/30/13 12:13:30] - Abyss: Data Folder patch succeeded.
[10/30/13 12:13:30] - Abyss: Bitmap patch succeeded.
[10/30/13 12:13:30] - Abyss: Bitmap Position patch succeeded.
[10/30/13 12:13:30] - Abyss: Allow Monitor Sleep patch succeeded.
[10/30/13 12:13:30] - Abyss: Alt Name Color patch succeeded.
[10/30/13 12:13:31] - Abyss: Block Ending Ads patch succeeded.
[10/30/13 12:13:31] - Abyss: Cancel Lance Counter patch succeeded.
[10/30/13 12:13:31] - Abyss: Channel Move Description Cut patch succeeded.
[10/30/13 12:13:31] - Abyss: Clear Dungeon Fog patch succeeded.
[10/30/13 12:13:31] - Abyss: Clock Minute patch succeeded.
[10/30/13 12:13:31] - Abyss: Deadly Life patch succeeded.
[10/30/13 12:13:31] - Abyss: Enable FSAA patch succeeded.
[10/30/13 12:13:31] - Abyss: Enable Multi-Client patch succeeded.
[10/30/13 12:13:31] - Abyss: Far Alt Display patch succeeded.
[10/30/13 12:13:32] - Abyss: Hidden Monsters patch succeeded.
[10/30/13 12:13:32] - Abyss: Infinite Dye Time patch succeeded.
[10/30/13 12:13:32] - Abyss: Interface While Dead patch succeeded.
[10/30/13 12:13:33] - Abyss: Item Detail patches succeeded.
[10/30/13 12:13:33] - Abyss: Last Position patch succeeded.
[10/30/13 12:13:33] - Abyss: Metalware patch succeeded.
[10/30/13 12:13:33] - Abyss: Minimap Zoom patch succeeded.
[10/30/13 12:13:33] - Abyss: Money String patch succeeded.
[10/30/13 12:13:33] - Abyss: Move To Same Channel patch succeeded.
[10/30/13 12:13:33] - Abyss: NoDelay patch succeeded.
[10/30/13 12:13:34] - Abyss: Party Board Swap patch succeeded.
[10/30/13 12:13:34] - Abyss: Quiet Pet patches succeeded.
[10/30/13 12:13:34] - Abyss: Remove Landing Height patch succeeded.
[10/30/13 12:13:34] - Abyss: Scouter patch succeeded.
[10/30/13 12:13:34] - Abyss: Scrapbook patch succeeded.
[10/30/13 12:13:34] - Abyss: Secondary Password patch succeeded.
[10/30/13 12:13:35] - Abyss: Show Item Price patch succeeded.
[10/30/13 12:13:35] - Abyss: Slash Command patch succeeded.
[10/30/13 12:13:35] - Abyss: SM Minute patch succeeded.
[10/30/13 12:13:35] - Abyss: Talk To Unequipped Ego patch succeeded.
[10/30/13 12:13:35] - Abyss: View NPC Equipment patch succeeded.
[10/30/13 12:13:35] - Abyss: Zoom patch succeeded.
[10/30/13 12:13:35] - Finished patching.
[10/30/13 12:14:01] - Menu modification successful.

[Razeekster]

Thanks for the update! Lag free again

[Majimari]

I've got the "Shows numerical quality of an item" enabled but it's not showing the numerical quality of items made with Magic Craft or Hillwen Engineering.

[Chocobubba]

I've got the "Shows numerical quality of an item" enabled but it's not showing the numerical quality of items made with Magic Craft or Hillwen Engineering.

I'm not sure those have a quality rating per se, as their quality is based on a more randomized "roll"

[╰(　´◔　ω　◔ `)╯]

I've got the "Shows numerical quality of an item" enabled but it's not showing the numerical quality of items made with Magic Craft or Hillwen Engineering.

That kinda hints something, doesn't it?

[Plonecakes]

I've got the "Shows numerical quality of an item" enabled but it's not showing the numerical quality of items made with Magic Craft or Hillwen Engineering.

The numerical rating is only for items that normally show a quality in stars, such as food.

[╰(　´◔　ω　◔ `)╯]

The numerical rating is only for items that normally show a quality in stars, such as food.

No, blacksmithed and tailored equipment have numerical quality, too.

[hiesavel]

Tailoring, Blacksmithing, Carpentry (for weapons only of course) and Cooking have numerical quality because the bonus progression is linear.
Magic craft and Engineering don't have numerical quality because the bonus to each stat is always random.
Handicraft doesn't have numerical quality because it always makes the same solid item.
Same with Refine for example, but smithed arrowheads have quality still, despite it changes nothing.

And last thing - a lot of gachapon items, especially R2 and R1, have 100 quality. Even accessories, for which it again changes nothing.

Also something about Cooking - it's a bit mean. When you make 79 quality food, the game says it's delicious, but it is not, delicious starts only from 80. So without quality showing memory patch you make 79 quality food, see the message, eat it to fulfill "Eat a deliciously %cooking_type% dish" skill training requirement and gain nothing. Except weight.

[Exodius07]

Seems to be the issue I'm having with the client picking up on the abyss mods, I get to the main log in screen from a direct client launch from my taskbar, type in my username and password, click start, and that is the error that pops up for me. Unless I'm not executing something right. I'm not sure where exactly I went wrong. Any help would be appreciated, thanks in advance.

Edit: I figured out my own problem lol. Seems I needed to log into mabi through the site itself so it updated my patched from 169  to 171, assuming that it wasn't updated from the downloader.exe since I reinstalled a clean client. So I guess if anyone else has the problem, make sure your client isn't 169, and if it is log in through the site to update to 171 and then install Abyss, and it should work out that way. Or atleast it did for me.

[paradox0101]

How come this time around when i put in my abyss mods i have no spec upgraded weapon glows?

[ChMorto1]

It is not letting me extract CShield from the .zip folder nor letting me run it from the zip