The Unofficial Tiara's Moonshine Mod & Autobot

[organization]

what is the discord? I am having the same issue that it disconnect me within 5-10 mins I log on

something is wrong with the data folder. If you disable the data folder, you will be fine.

[Tom]

when im trying to instal i get this ,  is there some method that i can use to run it or i must give up ?

[ShaggyZE]

when im trying to instal i get this ,  is there some method that i can use to run it or i must give up ?

it should be compatible with win7+ i’d throw away your pc, upgrade it or format it, as something isn’t right, it may be a download issue so try using the download mirrors, you can download abyss, kanan, hyddwn from the links at the top left manually, the installer can be extracted with 7zip, or you can just download uotiara.pack from http://uotiara.com and place it in the package folder as explained on the download page, and proff’s frontend can be found in the files menu on the left sidebar

[ShaggyZE]

Updated to 365:
-Nothing new to report.

[ShaggyZE]

Updated to 366.0.1.2:
-Started a private UO Tiara github repo so I will now be using version number correctly, dm me if you are familiar with NSIS and wish to contribute though I may be making it public soon.

[ShaggyZE]

Updated to 366.0.1.3:
-UOTiara is now open source and is using github and appveyor to host it's files so uotiara.com is going to be phased out, also this will probably be the last update I make on MM forums since the changes log can now be viewed on both github and appveyor and soon discord, I will however still provide tech support here and on discord.

[Shiva666]

Updated to 366.0.1.3:
-UOTiara is now open source and is using github and appveyor to host it's files so uotiara.com is going to be phased out, also this will probably be the last update I make on MM forums since the changes log can now be viewed on both github and appveyor and soon discord, I will however still provide tech support here and on discord.

thanks you  *Thumbs Up*

[pxwers]

Hey I have used tiara before in the past but this time i keep getting the same message once im through the installation process and once i start the game i get a message saying "Cannot find ijl11.dll. Please re-install this application"

How do i fix this anyone able to help me?!?!?!

[ShaggyZE]

Hey I have used tiara before in the past but this time i keep getting the same message once im through the installation process and once i start the game i get a message saying "Cannot find ijl11.dll. Please re-install this application"

How do i fix this anyone able to help me?!?!?!

does the installer warn you that it didn’t install abyss correctly? what filesize is your ijl11.dll, the problem is with your AV you need to add ijl11.dll or the mabinogi folder to your exclusion list of your Anti Virus as explained in the first post with orange text

[Horonelius]

So I posted about this in the Abyss thread because I was sure it was an Abyss issue, but when in areas like Rano, Connous and Courcle, areas with large maps, the map scrolling while moving will cause heavy stutters of a half-second or more. Zooming out somewhat alleviates the issue, the stutters will occur more gradually. Fully zooming out the map, enough for there to be no zooming, still causes occasional stutters.

I tested some things via the Rano map. Extracting and injecting the UNALTERED map via abyss resulted in what felt like simple dropped frames, almost like the display quests bug. Injecting the modded map into the original .it file results in the same issue as trying to inject the data folder via Abyss. This also occurs with Kanan. Theres not really any issues with the smaller map mods like the shadow mission maps.

I am all out of ideas. The game just hates something about these modded map files. I have even tried reinstalling Mabinogi, with no change in behavior. I AM using the Steam version, but I can't imagine it would change anything.

[ShaggyZE]

So I posted about this in the Abyss thread because I was sure it was an Abyss issue, but when in areas like Rano, Connous and Courcle, areas with large maps, the map scrolling while moving will cause heavy stutters of a half-second or more. Zooming out somewhat alleviates the issue, the stutters will occur more gradually. Fully zooming out the map, enough for there to be no zooming, still causes occasional stutters.

I tested some things via the Rano map. Extracting and injecting the UNALTERED map via abyss resulted in what felt like simple dropped frames, almost like the display quests bug. Injecting the modded map into the original .it file results in the same issue as trying to inject the data folder via Abyss. This also occurs with Kanan. Theres not really any issues with the smaller map mods like the shadow mission maps.

I am all out of ideas. The game just hates something about these modded map files. I have even tried reinstalling Mabinogi, with no change in behavior. I AM using the Steam version, but I can't imagine it would change anything.

as I told you before, i dont think its the maps, just zooming out a bit isn't a clue to helping solve the issue as it is just a confusing detail, i get no stuttering at all when testing so you''ll have to troubleshoot more as the issue is on your end.

[reanseih]

So I posted about this in the Abyss thread because I was sure it was an Abyss issue, but when in areas like Rano, Connous and Courcle, areas with large maps, the map scrolling while moving will cause heavy stutters of a half-second or more. Zooming out somewhat alleviates the issue, the stutters will occur more gradually. Fully zooming out the map, enough for there to be no zooming, still causes occasional stutters.

I tested some things via the Rano map. Extracting and injecting the UNALTERED map via abyss resulted in what felt like simple dropped frames, almost like the display quests bug. Injecting the modded map into the original .it file results in the same issue as trying to inject the data folder via Abyss. This also occurs with Kanan. Theres not really any issues with the smaller map mods like the shadow mission maps.

I am all out of ideas. The game just hates something about these modded map files. I have even tried reinstalling Mabinogi, with no change in behavior. I AM using the Steam version, but I can't imagine it would change anything.

Frontend's version of modded maps doesn't seem to lag Mabi. For me the lag seems to occur with UO Tiara zoomed in or out.

[Horonelius]

Frontend's version of modded maps doesn't seem to lag Mabi. For me the lag seems to occur with UO Tiara zoomed in or out.

Tried it out myself, and no problems! Thanks! So its definitely something to do with UOTiaras jpgs. I tried investigating but the only thing I could find was the DPI was different, which would only matter if you were to print them out.

[ShaggyZE]

we are just talking about compressed jpg’s so your telling me by switching the filenames and manually adding a few ports and text that now a few compressed jpgs causing lag, that sounds pretty stupid, but I wouldn’t put it past nexon, just we’ve been freaking around with the maps for over a decade so doesn’t seem likely, and your sure its not the bandits spotter that was just added to the minimap and when either of you tested you didnt do anything stupid like remove any of uotiara mods or install more then just frontend map. also why the fuk are we discussing it here, no one uses the forums anymore, we have discord.

[Horonelius]

we are just talking about compressed jpg’s so your telling me by switching the filenames and manually adding a few ports and text that now a few compressed jpgs causing lag, that sounds pretty stupid, but I wouldn’t put it past nexon, just we’ve been freaking around with the maps for over a decade so doesn’t seem likely, and your sure its not the bandits spotter that was just added to the minimap and when either of you tested you didnt do anything stupid like remove any of uotiara mods or install more then just frontend map. also why the fuk are we discussing it here, no one uses the forums anymore, we have discord.

I dunno what to tell you. I only use UOTiara for the maps and removing the irritating sounds. I disabled every possible mod BUT The maps, tried it with certain maps removed and certain maps included, and without failure, the problem only occurred in an area of Iria with UO's modded maps. I even modded in the UNMODDED map to see if that caused a problem, and it didn't. Its just those jpgs, and I have no idea why. I don't even use the installer anymore for the maps, I have all the variants saved in folders now.

[ShaggyZE]

okay, well i can tell you just about everything is different between frontends maps and uotiaras, resolution, dpi and bits probably the only thing being the same, not sure when I’ll have time to do any testing to confirm it or what solution I will use to fix it, could just be that they’ve been compressed one too many times.

[reanseih]

we are just talking about compressed jpg’s so your telling me by switching the filenames and manually adding a few ports and text that now a few compressed jpgs causing lag, that sounds pretty stupid, but I wouldn’t put it past nexon, just we’ve been freaking around with the maps for over a decade so doesn’t seem likely, and your sure its not the bandits spotter that was just added to the minimap and when either of you tested you didnt do anything stupid like remove any of uotiara mods or install more then just frontend map. also why the fuk are we discussing it here, no one uses the forums anymore, we have discord.

Wut? There's a Discord for Mabimods now?! Look. I just got back from couple years break. I know nothing. xD;;;;

When I tested, I was using Abyss and Kanan, Frontend wasn't installed yet. Not sure which you mean by UOTiara's mods, considering there's a giant list it comes with... I tested with the bare minimum things enabled, can't remember which but it didn't include bandit spotter. On which note I'm not sure that thing's working either... But I've messed around too much with various mod packs now so I'd like to test that on a clean folder before saying anything.

[ShaggyZE]

Wut? There's a Discord for Mabimods now?! Look. I just got back from couple years break. I know nothing. xD;;;;

When I tested, I was using Abyss and Kanan, Frontend wasn't installed yet. Not sure which you mean by UOTiara's mods, considering there's a giant list it comes with... I tested with the bare minimum things enabled, can't remember which but it didn't include bandit spotter. On which note I'm not sure that thing's working either... But I've messed around too much with various mod packs now so I'd like to test that on a clean folder before saying anything.

bandit spotter was changed to show them on the minimap and revert them back to normal size, heart beat works the same as in louder from farther away, last i tested it, it worked fine.

[reanseih]

bandit spotter was changed to show them on the minimap and revert them back to normal size, heart beat works the same as in louder from farther away, last i tested it, it worked fine.

I was about to confirm that it most certainly was not showing on minimap, but I think data folder is broken rn. I'm presuming mabipacker2 is broken from latest update. Either that or my Mabi's being weird despite trying multiple times with clean folder...

I don't think I saw anything on minimap when the other data folder mods were working though, but again my mods were a mess then. I can't say anything to sound since I'm working with no speakers rn.

[Horonelius]

I was about to confirm that it most certainly was not showing on minimap, but I think data folder is broken rn. I'm presuming mabipacker2 is broken from latest update. Either that or my Mabi's being weird despite trying multiple times with clean folder...

I'm 90% sure I never saw anything on minimap even when the other data folder mods were working though. I can't say anything to sound since I'm working with no speakers rn.

I know mabipack2 has issues packing to privileged folders, Program Files among them, which means the Steam version has issues if its on the root drive.

[reanseih]

I know mabipack2 has issues packing to privileged folders, Program Files among them, which means the Steam version has issues if its on the root drive.

Could you elaborate? I am on Steam version yea, default location C drive. Tho I copied the folder over from Nexon Launcher's ver.

The thing is tho pretty sure I did the exact same thing before Thursday and it worked fine. .-.

[Horonelius]

Could you elaborate? I am on Steam version yea, default location C drive. Tho I copied the folder over from Nexon Launcher's ver.

The thing is tho pretty sure I did the exact same thing before Thursday and it worked fine. .-.

Im just reminding people that, by default, Windows likes to protect locations like the OS drive root and Program Files. Even with administrator privileges and operating inside of the default steam location for mabinogi, some programs fail to modify files. The mabipack bat file that UOTiara makes in particular failed to both remove a temporary folder it created, and create the custom .it file.

[reanseih]

Im just reminding people that, by default, Windows likes to protect locations like the OS drive root and Program Files. Even with administrator privileges and operating inside of the default steam location for mabinogi, some programs fail to modify files. The mabipack bat file that UOTiara makes in particular failed to both remove a temporary folder it created, and create the custom .it file.

Honestly I'm not a Windows user and have about half a clue what I'm doing. But yes this seems to have worked, thanks.

For ref for others, I unchecked the read only option for the entire programs folder. Thing is, it keeps reverting back to being read only. I have no idea what's going on with the perms anymore but it's working atm so well, not complaining. Also no clue why perms act up now of all times, when it worked perfectly fine before.

[ShaggyZE]

I dunno what to tell you. I only use UOTiara for the maps and removing the irritating sounds. I disabled every possible mod BUT The maps, tried it with certain maps removed and certain maps included, and without failure, the problem only occurred in an area of Iria with UO's modded maps. I even modded in the UNMODDED map to see if that caused a problem, and it didn't. Its just those jpgs, and I have no idea why. I don't even use the installer anymore for the maps, I have all the variants saved in folders now.

Did some testing and I did experience the half a second stutter every 3 seconds and various other lag, but have experienced that before whether its a mod in abyss/kanan or my old pc's memory/video card I can't say, but I removed maps from data folder and would still stutter and then I removed the entire data folder and still got the same stutter every 3 seconds or so, so I've confirmed it's not UO Tiara for me.

It could be caused by many things and only certain things may help you with the stutter and lag that won't necessarily help me.

I was about to confirm that it most certainly was not showing on minimap, but I think data folder is broken rn. I'm presuming mabipacker2 is broken from latest update. Either that or my Mabi's being weird despite trying multiple times with clean folder...

I don't think I saw anything on minimap when the other data folder mods were working though, but again my mods were a mess then. I can't say anything to sound since I'm working with no speakers rn.

it's working fine for me, and my data folder is fine and enabled with Abyss so I have no need to use mabi-pack2 for .it as that's just an extra option.

Honestly I'm not a Windows user and have about half a clue what I'm doing. But yes this seems to have worked, thanks.

For ref for others, I unchecked the read only option for the entire programs folder. Thing is, it keeps reverting back to being read only. I have no idea what's going on with the perms anymore but it's working atm so well, not complaining. Also no clue why perms act up now of all times, when it worked perfectly fine before.

things change, it could be from a windows update or third party AV, I have had issues like this in the past, but currently using nexon launchers location so mabi-pack2 works fine for me when I test it, you can try https://appuals.com/how-to-fix-folder-keeps-reverting-to-read-only-on-windows-10/

[reanseih]

things change, it could be from a windows update or third party AV, I have had issues like this in the past, but currently using nexon launchers location so mabi-pack2 works fine for me when I test it, you can try https://appuals.com/how-to-fix-folder-keeps-reverting-to-read-only-on-windows-10/

I'm actually on Win 11 lmao, updates turned off. Or at least I think it's still paused, you can never know for sure with Windows... I tried data folder with both Abyss and Kanan prior to installing Tiara (which worked, same folder never messed with settings), neither of which had worked so I had assumed they both broke with the switched to .it. I guess I'd be wrong there too.

Very strange...

Thanks for the link. For now it's working but will check that first next time it breaks, fingers crossed it doesn't. xD