The Unofficial Tiara's Moonshine Mod & Autobot

[Majimari]

By the way don't I need to use a packer to get the mods working? Just asking since you said to try the install without MabiPacker and Data Packer. Well in any case, just installing Abyss and the Data folder mods I wanted without either of the two packers worked. Since the game will actually start up for me now.

[ShaggyZE]

Abyss has a read data folder mod, so only 1 of the 3 are needed to get Tiara's data folder working, 3 options are provided for those that have compatibility issues.

[Majimari]

Abyss has a read data folder mod, so only 1 of the 3 are needed to get Tiara's data folder working, 3 options are provided for those that have compatibility issues.

Well it doesn't seem to be working for me sadly. For Abyss that option does seem to be turned on I presume. Given this is what it says:

";Forces the Client read from the data folder before the pack files.
;   Patch found in Fantasia, remade by Blade3575.
DataFolder=1"

Yet absolutely none of my mods seem to be working for some reason...

I then decided to give the MabiPacker and Data Packer methods a try. They get the mods to work but I kept getting repeatedly booted off after a few minutes because NGS detected a security threat.

[ShaggyZE]

Do you have any of the risky mods enabled like "visual chat / show real view reforge"

[Majimari]

Do you have any of the risky mods enabled like "visual chat / show real view reforge"

Well that entire section was checked off by default in the installer. So anything within the Risky Mods section did get enabled yes. I'll trying removing and using the installer again but without the risky mods section checked off this time to see if that makes any difference.

[ShaggyZE]

My point was not to have them enabled, as they have been the only mods to trigger NGS in the past, since you don't have them enabled it could Mabipacker being open or left in the memory or it could be a mod in Abyss.ini being the cause and for that you would need to check its thread, also you may want to log off or restart you computer after installing mods just to ensure nothing is left in the memory for NGS to detect also read the NGS issues thread for more ways to avoid being detected

[Majimari]

My point was not to have them enabled, as they have been the only mods to trigger NGS in the past, since you don't have them enabled it could be a mod in Abyss.ini being the cause and for that you would need to check its thread, also you may want to log off or restart you computer after installing mods just to ensure nothing is left in the memory for NGS also read the NGS issues thread for more ways to avoid being detected

Well actually I've been trying to do it without Abyss at all for awhile. Given you suggested trying that. In any case, I've yet to give it a try without the risky mods installed yet.

Also, for the MabiPacker option do I need to run it after the Unofficial Tiara's Moonshine installer is done to create a custom pack?  Or does the UOTiara.pack already do that for me?

[ShaggyZE]

Uotiara.pack is the custom .pack and is created for you in the package folder at the end of the install with uotiarapack.bat and mabipacker

[Majimari]

Ah... then perhaps me attempting to create a custom pack on top of that pack with MabiPacker could have been causing issues?

Update/edit: I tried it with just the UOTiara.pack and not attempting to create an additional custom pack this time. So far it has yet to give me any NGS issue. So I guess it works now then. But what do I need to do if I want to edit an xml file within that custom pack or add any additional mods of my own in the future?

[ShaggyZE]

Over writing the .pack is fine, mabipacker was most likely still open or in the memory that caused NGS

Future edits can be made to the files in the /data/ folder then run uotiarapack.bat to over write uotiara.pack

[Majimari]

Over writing the .pack is fine, mabipacker was most likely still open or in the memory that caused NGS

Future edits can be made to the files in the /data/ folder then run uotiarapack.bat to over write uotiara.pack

Well I didn't mean overwriting the pack. I meant I ran MabiPacker separately after the installer finished and created an additional custom pack.

Ah... so I shouldn't have deleted the data folder then? I only deleted it because of that NGS issues thread you linked me to advised deleting the data folder.

[ShaggyZE]

It recommends deleting some files from the data folder that cause NGS like the risky mods of uo tiara especially if used with Datapacker.exe but having a data folder with Abyss or Custom packs is fine, you can even move or rename the data folder when your not using it, but when creating or updating a .pack especially when using uotiarapack.bat the data folder is required since that is the location of the mods being packed

[Majimari]

I seem to be having another issue now. I didn't realize it until I got to flying around, but for some reason with Unofficial Tiara's Moonshine Mod installed I become unable to move the mount up or down while in the air.

After long session of trial and error testing I narrowed down the cause. Not sure which one exactly but it seems to be one of the Fog Removal mods in the fieldmap section causing the issue. Which is strange since I didn't think a Fog Removal mod of all things would have anything to possibly affect flight. Given you can't use flight in dungeons or underground tunnels anyways. Yet somehow despite that it's the cause of the issue. Since vertical flight adjustment returns if I don't have any of the Fog Removal mods installed and it stops working the moment I add those mods back in.

[ShaggyZE]

there are no fog removals in the data\db\fieldmap folder, those are 8 unrestricted flight mods which i think originally allowed you to land anywhere and fly past borders, but that was patched years ago, they may need removed or updated so i'll have to test them out in game to see.

[Majimari]

there are no fog removals in the data\db\fieldmap folder, those are 8 unrestricted flight mods which i think originally allowed you to land anywhere and fly past borders, but that was patched years ago, they may need removed or updated so i'll have to test them out in game to see.

No I'm referring to the Dungeon Fog Removal 1-3, Iria Dungeon Fog Removal, and Iria Underground Dungeon Fog Removal mods you see here in the fieldmap section of the installer:


 

I'm saying that after extensive trial and error I've narrowed it down to those Fog Removal mods there. I'm not sure which one yet. All I know is that when I have all those installed vertical flight suddenly just breaks. I also still have no idea why Fog Removal mods of all things would affect vertical flight in any way.

Also, the very first thing I tried when I noticed myself having an issue with vertical flight not working was to disable the Unrestricted Flight mods and the Vertical Flight Speed mod. Yet disabling them did nothing to fix the problem and Vertical Flight works just fine with only them enabled. So they're most definitely not the cause I feel.

[ShaggyZE]

hm i see why you think the fog removals are in fieldmap, they are not suppose to be showing up there the fieldmap files should end at unrestricted sliab cuilin flight map and the rest of those mods are in the root of \db\ folder structure wise so i'll have to fix that, as far as why the fog removers are causing problems with flight i have no idea as they have nothing to do with flight and each one is most likely affecting each area, so in a sense all of them would be the cause, but i will still have to test in game to find out why.

[Majimari]

Ok, so I returned to narrowing it down and I finally found the exact specific one causing the problem. Turns out it's the Iria Dungeon Fog Removal mod. Don't know why it's having such an effect, but it's definitely the one breaking Vertical Flight for some unknown reason. Since when I add it in vertical flight breaks. But if I remove it vertical flight works again.

[Draconis.Pendragon]

Ok, so I returned to narrowing it down and I finally found the exact specific one causing the problem. Turns out it's the Iria Dungeon Fog Removal mod. Don't know why it's having such an effect, but it's definitely the one breaking Vertical Flight for some unknown reason. Since when I add it in vertical flight breaks. But if I remove it vertical flight works again.

For some reason this file and another didn't make it into the compile, it's fixed now.  My personal mods worked fine.  Thanks for the info.

Updated to  R252.0.0.2

• Fixed Minimap issue which now has a setting that affects flight.
• Fixed Production -small update-

[masterneko]

how long does moonshine and abyss take to update each content update cuz the next one is this thurday

[ShaggyZE]

typically Draconis will update the day of the content update, if it's deemed necessary as they don't always do content updates each week and if any bugs are found with nexon or mods Draconis will release minor updates throughout the week.
abyss is another story as some of its mods are created by step29 and Blade may need to wait to update and not all of its mods break on each content update so it varies.

[Draconis.Pendragon]

Updated to Memento R253.0.0.0

[Sanctuary2808]

Fog removal for the Iria Underground minimap (Solea, Ant Hell) doesn't seem to be working.

In minimapinfo.xml, EnableFog for RegionID's 3101, 3201 & 3202 was set to 'true' when it should be 'false'. Unless of course this was already fixed and I missed seeing it mentioned.

[Draconis.Pendragon]

Fog removal for the Iria Underground minimap (Solea, Ant Hell) doesn't seem to be working.

In minimapinfo.xml, EnableFog for RegionID's 3101, 3201 & 3202 was set to 'true' when it should be 'false'. Unless of course this was already fixed and I missed seeing it mentioned.

Thanks for the info.  It'll be fixed in the next release.

[mabinogiplayers]

I dont know if its possible but would it be possible to fix the water glitch for the new dungeon with tiara? like the water is transparent and you cant move freely

[Fl0rn]

I dont know if its possible but would it be possible to fix the water glitch for the new dungeon with tiara? like the water is transparent and you cant move freely

check the abyss thread